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Old 01-22-2010, 12:32 PM   #21
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well you'll have to forgive me there, young feller. I didnt watch BSG that much. and whats a TOS?
The Original Series. So I'm talking about this BSG:

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The Original Series. So I'm talking about this BSG:

Hey it's Templeton Peck on the right! Face man!
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Hey it's Templeton Peck on the right! Face man!
As a kid it took me a while to get used to Starbuck as a character on the A-Team.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:22 PM   #24
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Scientology is weird...

Wait, I mean Mormonism
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:38 PM   #25
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So according to Mormons blonde haired people are demons?
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:51 PM   #26
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Mormonism includes many other unusual teachings which you will probably not be told about until you have been in the church for a long time. These teachings are not revealed to investigators or new converts because those people are not yet considered ready to have more than "milk" as doctrine. The Mormons also probably realize that if investigators knew of these unusual teachings they would not join the church. In addition to those mentioned elsewhere in this article, the following are noteworthy:

  • God was once a man like us.
  • God has a tangible body of flesh and bone.
  • God lives on a planet near the star Kolob.
  • God ("Heavenly Father") has at least one wife, our "Mother in Heaven," but she is so holy that we are not to discuss her nor pray to her.
  • Jesus was married.
  • We can become like God and rule over our own universe.
  • There are many gods, ruling over their own worlds.
  • Jesus and Satan ("Lucifer") are brothers, and they are our brothers - we are all spirit children of Heavenly Father
  • Jesus Christ was conceived by God the Father by having sex with Mary, who was temporarily his wife.
  • We should not pray to Jesus, [B]nor try to feel a personal relationship with him[/B]. THIS IS A FLAT OUT LIE
  • The "Lord" ("Jehovah") in the Old Testament is the being named Jesus in the New Testament, but different from "God the Father" ("Elohim").
  • In the highest degree of the celestial kingdom some men will have more than one wife.
  • Before coming to this earth we lived as spirits in a "pre-existence", during which we were tested; our position in this life (whether born to Mormons or savages, or in America or Africa) is our reward or punishment for our obedience in that life. THIS IS A FLAT OUT LIE. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT IF YOU WERE BORN IN UNFORTUNATE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT YOU WERE NOT AS RIGHTEOUS.
  • Dark skin is a curse from God, the result of our sin, or the sin of our ancestors. If sufficiently righteous, a dark-skinned person will become light-skinned.(I sssume this is an explanation for MJ?)
  • The Garden of Eden was in Missouri. All humanity before the Great Flood lived in the western hemisphere. The Ark transported Noah and the other survivors to the eastern hemisphere.
  • Not only will human beings be resurrected to eternal life, but also all animals - everything that has ever lived on earth - will be resurrected and dwell in heaven.
  • Christ will not return to earth in any year that has seen a rainbow.
  • Mormons should avoid traveling on water, since Satan rules the waters.
  • The sun receives its light from the star Kolob.
  • If a Gentile becomes Mormon, the Holy Ghost actually purges his Gentile blood and replaces it with Israelite blood.
  • [I]A righteous Mormon will actually see the face of God in the Mormon temple. [/I] ANOTHER LIE. IT IS POSSIBLE BUT IT IS NOT A BELIEF THAT IT HAPPENS FREQUENTLY
  • You can identify a false angel by the color of his hair, or by offering to shake his hand.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:54 PM   #27
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I think the title had an extra m in the first word.
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Old 01-22-2010, 01:57 PM   #28
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I think the title had an extra m in the first word.
So they are Ormons ???
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Scientology is weird...

Wait, I mean Mormonism
there doesn't seem to be a lot to separate the two. maybe in a few hundred years scientology will be considered a "normal" religion like mormonism
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I grew up Mormon until I was about 17. Somethings I was taught on that list. Not sure about it all. I didn't pay much attention. Mormon doctrine is always changing with the times and trying to become more modern. All I know is South Park explains Mormons a lot better then this video.
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Old 01-22-2010, 05:08 PM   #31
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I really like the South Park Mormonism episode. Quite fair in a lot of respects in that they make fun of proposterus beliefs (in terms of science) but also recognizes that on the family level a lot of good things can come out of religion.
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I'm a Jack-Mormon myself, and was taught about 60% of Cheese's list before the time I left (9 years old).
As am I and nearly every one of those bullets make me laugh because I've never heard them in a church setting. Ever.
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Interesting that everyone ignores the comments made by Rathji and eddly and just go on making fun of them.

Well done folks.
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Interesting that everyone ignores the comments made by Rathji and eddly and just go on making fun of them.

Well done folks.
Because he just did a drive by.

What did you expect?

If he actually put a little bit of effort into his post to break down the video, he might get a little more attention.
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Old 01-22-2010, 07:02 PM   #35
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I dunno, I thought most people in the thread after Rathji and eddly's posts are equally not taking the video seriously.
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Because he just did a drive by.

What did you expect?

If he actually put a little bit of effort into his post to break down the video, he might get a little more attention.
Please, he knows better. He's been down that road.

The fact the video was produced to slam the LDS church should be enough for people, but nope....people will believe anything if it makes them feel better about their position on an issue.
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Old 01-23-2010, 10:02 AM   #37
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Please, he knows better. He's been down that road.

The fact the video was produced to slam the LDS church should be enough for people, but nope....people will believe anything if it makes them feel better about their position on an issue.
Then maybe they should offer explanations for some of the weird and wonderful items on that list Dis. The fact you didnt experience them doesnt mean they dont exist. Ideas like the ones presented in the video dont just come from thin air.
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Then maybe they should offer explanations for some of the weird and wonderful items on that list Dis. The fact you didnt experience them doesnt mean they dont exist. Ideas like the ones presented in the video dont just come from thin air.
No, they come from the magical star Kolob - haven't you been paying attention?
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Be careful what you read. Give me any religion and I can manipulate truth to make it appear the way I want it to appear.
so once again...in the list provided, what was manipulated? Be specific.
The list provided is from 1000's of ex-Mormons. Were they hallucinating, or is this a case of they hate Mormonisim so much now that they are saying anything to defame it?
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so once again...in the list provided, what was manipulated? Be specific.
The list provided is from 1000's of ex-Mormons. Were they hallucinating, or is this a case of they hate Mormonisim so much now that they are saying anything to defame it?
To be fair a lot of the points on the list are either extreme views within mormonism or views that are no longer held. If you go through the extreme and historical parts of any regligion I'm sure you could produce a similar list..... well maybe not the galactic sex part.
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