Just a reminder for tonight

[CaptainCrunch]

She's a real estate developer and yes she is the majority owner with Jeff Jarrett as the minority owner with his dad.

She's probably sitting in a bar somewhere crying about tonight.

[Flamesguy_SJ]

EDIT: Beaten.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

She's a real estate developer and yes she is the majority owner with Jeff Jarrett as the minority owner with his dad.

She's probably sitting in a bar somewhere crying about tonight.

So she bought it off the Jarrett's because TNA was losing money?


Why would she be crying? I watched the first hour before Raw started and the Hogan/Nash/Hall/Bischoff segmen was pretty entertaining.

You seem to know alot about wrestling. Do you know he rumoured amounts that Hogan and Hart got for their involvements?

And when Hogan says he is her "partner", he means just for the storyline right? Or did he actually buy a stake in the company?

[ResAlien]

Well they screwed that up good. What a lame ending, the "hug" between Hart and HBK was the most contrived thing I'd ever seen. Can't figure out why Bret went back.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So she bought it off the Jarrett's because TNA was losing money?


Why would she be crying? I watched the first hour before Raw started and the Hogan/Nash/Hall/Bischoff segmen was pretty entertaining.

You seem to know alot about wrestling. Do you know he rumoured amounts that Hogan and Hart got for their involvements?

And when Hogan says he is her "partner", he means just for the storyline right? Or did he actually buy a stake in the company?

TNA was almost dead when she stepped in. I heard that Hogan has a million dollar deal. Hart has a pretty massive deal for 4 months of work.

I thought that the first hour of TNA was the worst hour of wrestling garbage that I've ever seen. They managed to turn their biggest strength which is the X-Division into a gong show. And Hogan who kept preaching younger wrestlers was sure rolling out his friends. Plus Hall should be nowhere near a camera the guy looks like garbage and in the later stages of liver failure. Xpac is a joke.

Yes Hogan is a storyline partner as is Bishoff. I really don't expect Hogan to last through his contract.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I've been a fan of the hitman since I was a wee little tot turning on Stampede Wrestling on Saturday Afternoon to watch greats like the Great Gamma, Archie Gouldie, Bret Hart, Dynamite Kid and Davey Boy Smith and JR Foley. I followed the hitman through his career and remember being shocked in the days before Internet when he pinned Rick Flair for the World title in Saskatoon.

Which is why NO ONE should ever watch that WWF crap! Stampede wrestling was 1000000 times better than anything Vince McMahon ever put out.

I can see the WWE being out of business in about 2 years.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Which is why NO ONE should ever watch that WWF crap! Stampede wrestling was 1000000 times better than anything Vince McMahon ever put out.

I can see the WWE being out of business in about 2 years.

for the most part I agree. I used to love Stampede Wrestling, but lets not over romance the thing. For as much good T.V. and good angles there were some outright bloody terrible angles and matches, especially when Bruce Hart started booking it and became indestructible.

It was also his angle between Bad News Allen and Archie Gouldie that ended up killing Stampede Wrestling pretty much for good.

The only reason why I watched Raw last night was to see the Hitman, I've been a fan of his for a long time, and as I mentioned, I don't think I've met a nicer celebrity. The rest of WWE I could leave, but Hart and the Hart Dynasty are reasons to tune in.

I have my doubts that WWE will be out of business in 2 years, they've gone through worse periods and survived.

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Which is why NO ONE should ever watch that WWF crap! Stampede wrestling was 1000000 times better than anything Vince McMahon ever put out.

I can see the WWE being out of business in about 2 years.

Are you serious??

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

for the most part I agree. I used to love Stampede Wrestling, but lets not over romance the thing. For as much good T.V. and good angles there were some outright bloody terrible angles and matches, especially when Bruce Hart started booking it and became indestructible.

It was also his angle between Bad News Allen and Archie Gouldie that ended up killing Stampede Wrestling pretty much for good.

The only reason why I watched Raw last night was to see the Hitman, I've been a fan of his for a long time, and as I mentioned, I don't think I've met a nicer celebrity. The rest of WWE I could leave, but Hart and the Hart Dynasty are reasons to tune in.

I have my doubts that WWE will be out of business in 2 years, they've gone through worse periods and survived.

So when does Bret push the Hart dynasty?

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Are you serious??

Kids aren't stupid anymore. they can see when crap is crap. Also no one over 25 watches wrestling anymore anyways. And if they do they do it secretly in the basement like porn. hahahhaa.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

for the most part I agree. I used to love Stampede Wrestling, but lets not over romance the thing. For as much good T.V. and good angles there were some outright bloody terrible angles and matches, especially when Bruce Hart started booking it and became indestructible.

It was also his angle between Bad News Allen and Archie Gouldie that ended up killing Stampede Wrestling pretty much for good.

The only reason why I watched Raw last night was to see the Hitman, I've been a fan of his for a long time, and as I mentioned, I don't think I've met a nicer celebrity. The rest of WWE I could leave, but Hart and the Hart Dynasty are reasons to tune in.

I have my doubts that WWE will be out of business in 2 years, they've gone through worse periods and survived.

hahaha. That was awesome. Bad news allen and the fork! It made Ed Whalen quit the show.

Seriously the hitman and shawn michaels made up? how stupid could that be? you had 12 years to do an awesome return for Hart to come back and destroy everyone and you have him hugging Michaels?
LAME

[albertGQ]

So Captain Crunch, what is the deal with Bret saying Vince has been blocking a return to the WWE for the past couple of years. Any truth to that?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So when does Bret push the Hart dynasty?

I would expect that their start comes on Smackdown. At some point Hart is going to show up there as well.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

hahaha. That was awesome. Bad news allen and the fork! It made Ed Whalen quit the show.

Actually it was the angle where Bad News broke Stomper's kids neck in a tag team battle. It wasn't really Stomper's kid and he didn't really break his neck. But I was at that card. A Riot broke out and Allen punched out a couple of fans as well. Whalen wasn't in on what was going to happen and he quit. Stu lost his wrestling license and Stampede wrestling was forced out of town and lost its T.V. deal.

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Seriously the hitman and shawn michaels made up? how stupid could that be? you had 12 years to do an awesome return for Hart to come back and destroy everyone and you have him hugging Michaels?

As much as I'd like to see it there would be no point to it. First of all it would make Bret a instant heel which isn't what he or MacMAhon would want. Second of all there's no way that Hart could pull off a match with Micheals. Third of all, listening to interviews by Micheal's he wanted to make peace with Hart in the real world.

[albertGQ]

I wonder what Martha Hart thinks about Bret going back to the WWE

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

So Captain Crunch, what is the deal with Bret saying Vince has been blocking a return to the WWE for the past couple of years. Any truth to that?

it was actually Hart doing the blocking going back to the Hall of Fame ceremony where he was invited to appear at Wrestlemania the next day and declined. Mostly due to his physical condition.

If you read his book one of the first people to call him after his throat was MacMahon. They worked together on the Hitman DVD and it sounds like they were back of fairly good terms, but not even close to where they were before the Screwjob.

Suppossedly Bret also had knee replacement surgery not that long ago so the timing was bad.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

I wonder what Martha Hart thinks about Bret going back to the WWE

After Martha settled the Law suit she black sheeped the entire Hart family including Bret who had worked with her on the law suit and supported her. There is no relationship there anymore, so I don't think he cares about what she thinks.

There were no winners at all in that law suit.

[LockedOut]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

After Martha settled the Law suit she black sheeped the entire Hart family including Bret who had worked with her on the law suit and supported her. There is no relationship there anymore, so I don't think he cares about what she thinks.

There were no winners at all in that law suit.

I can't wait till the movie comes out. Lots of drama.

[Prototype]

I had unexplainable emotions seeing Bret and Shawn in the ring together. I honostly looked over to my friend, trying to say anything, and I couldn't describe it.

I did think it was a little lame to only have Bret in three segements, the opening, talk with Jericho, and the end. The night was built up as the night of Bret Hart, and he was barely on the show.

I have hated how guests get involved in matches in the past (ie-Piven, Green) and that's the end of their involvement. I would have thought that there was some carry over. Considering the rumoured contract offered to Bret, I doubt the kick to the junk is the last we've seen of him.

[albertGQ]

I thought Bret was on quite a bit. The first and last segment was pretty long in nature