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Old 12-16-2009, 12:47 PM   #21
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Mind you... Since what Nickelback did over these last 10 years was so easy, we should all be Top 10 Billboard acts and multimillionaire recording artists 10 years from now.

It's going to be awesome, I can't wait. I'm going to throw lots of money at every video camera I see just so I can really emphasize how awesome I am too. I'll also pay some guy $10 an hour to run around behind me and pick up all that money though.
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THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND MEEEEEE. WHOA WHOA WHOA WOOOHOOO THIS IS HOW YOU REMIND ME.

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When does he say WHOA WHOA WHOA WOOOHOOO in that song???

I get it, you don't like them, fine......but don't go make crap up.
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Old 12-16-2009, 12:49 PM   #24
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When does he say WHOA WHOA WHOA WOOOHOOO in that song???

I get it, you don't like them, fine......but don't go make crap up.

But, but Nicklecrap "Makes Crap Up" all the time...
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I guess if you go by sales it's true but if you go by music it's woefully untrue. I don't mind that Nickelback is popular, beyond that I can't stand listening to the radio because of how much I dislike Nickelback's and others corporate tunes. They are just a good for those who don't really care about music and only care about enjoying a few minutes in the car.

McDonalds, Michael Bay, Nickelback, Coors Light, it's all the same thing. I eat at McDonalds and drink Coors Light but I know that if I had the willingness, time and money to really delve into food and drink I wouldn't touch those things ever again.

What I really dislike is the argument that music is entirely subjective and each band is equally valuable. It's not true and destructive to music and art. A band that spends years laboring over an album and releases something that innovates, shows music in a new light, and brings real insight deserves far more praise than a band like Nickelback.
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Nickleback is almost entirely responsible for my switch to satellite radio. I think they're just a creation of Sirius and XM meant to drive all but the lowest of the low to the satellite market.
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Insert snobby music comment. I listen to Mozart more and more these days. I really could careless if Nickelback was the Band of the Decade. Good on them.
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I hate Nickelback 'cause they are popular. I like talking about how freaking awesome indie bands are because no one has ever heard them before and by supporting them, I'm being unique.
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What I really dislike is the argument that music is entirely subjective and each band is equally valuable. It's not true and destructive to music and art. A band that spends years laboring over an album and releases something that innovates, shows music in a new light, and brings real insight deserves far more praise than a band like Nickelback.
Whether we like it or not, it's a fact that most people would rather just listen to something that they can enjoy without having a PhD in Music. It's entertainment, and what you've just described is the musical equivalent to wondering why people go to comedies or action movies instead of stopping to enjoy a really great black and white non-fiction piece that really causes people to think about the world and their places in it.

Most people do that stuff every day already, and they just want to listen to a song or watch a movie that allows them to not have to think about anything at all.

Once in a while, though, a band like Queen or Zeppelin will come along that manages to do both... entertain and innovate at the same time. Unfortunately, while it's possible to entertain without innovating... it's impossible to innovate without entertaining. If innovation is going to accomplish anything, at some point it's going to have to be carried to the masses by first making it entertaining.
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I listen to Mozart more and more these days.
I've always thought this is the best way to measure how successful an artist's music is... the test of time. Mozart, Sinatra, Michael Jackson... all guys we will be listening to in 20 years.
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I've always thought this is the best way to measure how successful an artist's music is... the test of time. Mozart, Sinatra, Michael Jackson... all guys we will be listening to in 20 years.
Haha Michael Jackson and Mozart. Sorry, I'm a snob.
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I guess if you go by sales it's true but if you go by music it's woefully untrue. I don't mind that Nickelback is popular, beyond that I can't stand listening to the radio because of how much I dislike Nickelback's and others corporate tunes. They are just a good for those who don't really care about music and only care about enjoying a few minutes in the car.

McDonalds, Michael Bay, Nickelback, Coors Light, it's all the same thing. I eat at McDonalds and drink Coors Light but I know that if I had the willingness, time and money to really delve into food and drink I wouldn't touch those things ever again.

What I really dislike is the argument that music is entirely subjective and each band is equally valuable. It's not true and destructive to music and art. A band that spends years laboring over an album and releases something that innovates, shows music in a new light, and brings real insight deserves far more praise than a band like Nickelback.
You're right. Be prepared to be called a music snob. Somehow people that buy "big shiny tunes" once a year seem to think their opinion of music should matter as much as people who spend time and energy digging up obscure new music, and go to lots of live shows, and spent money on a lot of music each year, as well as listen with a critical ear. No one who is a music fan of substance believes Nickelback is the greatest band of the decade.

I don't have to respect everyone's opinion on music when, as Troutman put it, their reference point is whatever they hear on Don, Johanne and the Coach on the morning commute.

It would be the equivalent of seeking an opinion on the Flames from a bandwagon fan who watched a few playoff games while getting plastered in 2004, and hasn't watched many since.
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At the end of the day...for me, when I listen to Nickelback in my car, I'm tapping the steering wheel. I know there's no substance to it, but I don't really care.

I'm not gonna go sit in my living room in front of a fire with a glass of wine and throw on a Nickelback album.

They serve a purpose, for people like me who don't need to listen to artsy fartsy music that no one has ever heard of.

Not every song needs to have a meaning, a message, something that makes it unique from the rest. Just keep the levels moving and I am a happy person.
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Pffft. Salieri was the best artist of the 1780s.
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Pffft. Salieri was the best artist of the 1780s.
I know very little about classical music, but I always want to learn more!
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I thought the decade ends officially in 2010?
did the 80's end in 1990?
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Ever listened to their song "Far Away"? There's a part where Chad Mullet sings "Far Away", and there's an echo to make it sound like it's "far away". Get it? That's great music right there folks.

Or how about "If Today was Your Last Day"? The first line is "My best friend gave me the best advice". Nothing like using the word "best" twice in the same line. But I guess that's why he's your best friend!!
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I know very little about classical music, but I always want to learn more!
I was just sort of reinforcing the point about longevity with an obscure example. Salieri was as popular if not moreso than Mozart during their lives, but his music just didn't weather well. In the end, it was sort of mainstream and not innovative. So Salieri is to the 1780s what Nickelback may end up being to the 2000s.
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