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Old 11-20-2009, 07:51 AM   #21
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Sort of on the same topic: anyone know of a place other than the dealership where they will turn off the light with the oil change? I hate going back to the dealership for these things but it seems that no one will reset the sensor...
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:17 AM   #22
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Sort of on the same topic: anyone know of a place other than the dealership where they will turn off the light with the oil change? I hate going back to the dealership for these things but it seems that no one will reset the sensor...
Just do it yourself, it will be in the manual, look under the service/maintenance reminder section.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:22 AM   #23
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Just do it yourself, it will be in the manual, look under the service/maintenance reminder section.
Is it pretty easy? IIRC the dealership wanted to charge $90 to reset it!
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:26 AM   #24
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300 bucks for a tranny flush? Cost me $95 at my local Ford dealer.
Dude, you should have seen what Lone Star was going to try and charge me for a transmission flush for our merc. Brutal.
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Old 11-20-2009, 08:41 AM   #25
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For tranny flush, check your transmission fluid. Don't just blindly do it at a certain interval. How to check automatic fluid:

1. Start your car and bring it up to operating temperature
2. Run through your gears up and down
3. Pop the hood and pull out the tranny fluid dipstick
4. Wipe it down, reinsert and pull it out again. The fluid should be between the min and max markings
5. Check the colour. It should be pink. If it's dark or smells burnt, you need a fluid change.

As for oil, don't just go by distance, as dirt accumulates regardless of whether you drive or not. Just check it regularly and if it's dark or burnt then it needs a change.

Don't bother with an engine flush unless your oil changes have had substantial metal particles in them.

Coolant flush should be done every 5 years as that's the life of the antifreeze.
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Old 11-20-2009, 09:49 AM   #26
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Is it pretty easy? IIRC the dealership wanted to charge $90 to reset it!
To reset mine, I hold a button down for 10 seconds, then press another button, to reset, then I press the first button again. It's usually pretty easy. You can't make things too difficult or the dealership technician will screw it up.

I do my own oil changes. Once last year I took my wife's toyota matrix in because it was freezing out and I didn't want to do it. I took it to country hills toyota because I work in the area. The next oil change, it was warm out, so I did it. s had left my oil filter on when I did the previous oil change. I checked the bill, and sure enough, I was dinged for an oem filter.
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I change my oil every 10,000-13,000km. I have an oil life monitor and its never gone below 25% oil life. I use synthetic and the computer measures the way I drive and the viscosity of the oil. My truck uses 9.8 liters every oil change so I'm not keen on spending $125 on material every 5000km if it doesnt need it. I spent $450 getting my transmission flushed with synthetic allision fluid. Its supposed to be good for another 160,000km now but that was pretty steep.
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Old 11-20-2009, 10:19 AM   #28
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For tranny flush, check your transmission fluid. Don't just blindly do it at a certain interval. How to check automatic fluid:

1. Start your car and bring it up to operating temperature
2. Run through your gears up and down
3. Pop the hood and pull out the tranny fluid dipstick
4. Wipe it down, reinsert and pull it out again. The fluid should be between the min and max markings
5. Check the colour. It should be pink. If it's dark or smells burnt, you need a fluid change.

As for oil, don't just go by distance, as dirt accumulates regardless of whether you drive or not. Just check it regularly and if it's dark or burnt then it needs a change.

Don't bother with an engine flush unless your oil changes have had substantial metal particles in them.

Coolant flush should be done every 5 years as that's the life of the antifreeze.
This is a very good guideline. The manufacturers give a one size fits all mileage estimate but everyone uses their vehicles differently. I have never done a tranny flush on any vehicle I have owned. The exception will be my truck this spring, which I use to tow my racecar. I do change the transmission filters, and top up the fluid however a full flush is rarely necessary.

You can't flush a trannsmision on your own, you need a machine to do it properly, and on my last car, a Pontiac G6, you can't even top up the fluid without a factory adapter. The manufacturers are making it harder to do your maintenance so that a 40$ filter/top-up now becomes a $300 flush.

Don't believe the hype, monitor your fluid, and your usage, and schedule accordingly. Most tranny's don't fail because of the fluid, but the usage. People max out or exceed the vehicle tow ratings and cook the fluid, leading to failure. If you are towing a trailer, you should really pay attention to your trans fluid, and you should never tow without a cooler.
Other causes of trans failures - Electronic modules fail, cooking the tranns. Not warming up the trans prior to driving is a huge issue, this blows seals and wears parts out really fast. Rarely is it the fault of the fluid on it's own. If you use your vehicle for day to day driving you can easily get over 100k out of the fluid.

Don't believe the hype, monitor your fluid, and your usage, and schedule accordingly. If you are towing a trailer, you should really pay attention to your trans fluid.

I change my oil in spring and fall, rarely in between unless it starts to look dirty. I check it all the time. I don't use synthetics in my street vehicles, mostly cause I''m cheap, but for day to day use conventional oil works fine. Mileage and again, how you use the vehicle will determine when you should.

One thing about all these recommended intervals. They are designed to make the dealers money. Plain and simple. The manufacturer wants you to service at their dealers, thats why they publish all these intervals and make their vehicles unique so you almost always have to go to one of ther dealers. As I said the G6 has to go to the dealer for tranny top-ups.
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One thing about all these recommended intervals. They are designed to make the dealers money. Plain and simple. The manufacturer wants you to service at their dealers, thats why they publish all these intervals and make their vehicles unique so you almost always have to go to one of ther dealers. As I said the G6 has to go to the dealer for tranny top-ups.
I used to know someone who owned and operated his own auto shop. He recommended the intervals that are listed in the owners manual.
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Pink should not be a color used to describe good ATF. ATF should be a red, if it somewhat resembles pink at all there is water in the oil and needs to be replaced immediately. More vehicles are also getting to the point where they have sealed transmissions and you can not even check fluid levels.
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:09 AM   #31
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my nissan versa is also every 6000 km
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I used to know someone who owned and operated his own auto shop. He recommended the intervals that are listed in the owners manual.
I didn't want that to sound like a conspirasy theory and reading it again it does. It's just that they are a one size fits all recommendation, and they are conservative at that. If you know how you drive and pay attention to your fluids you should be able to move those recommendations around. That may mean shortening those recommended time frames as well, say if you bag the s**t out of your car regularly.

It can't hurt anything to follow the intervals if you are using your vehicle normally.
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I didn't want that to sound like a conspirasy theory and reading it again it does. It's just that they are a one size fits all recommendation, and they are conservative at that. If you know how you drive and pay attention to your fluids you should be able to move those recommendations around. That may mean shortening those recommended time frames as well, say if you bag the s**t out of your car regularly.

It can't hurt anything to follow the intervals if you are using your vehicle normally.
My manual has reccomondations for normal and extreme driving. That said I pretty much stick to the same intervals when it comes to oil changes and try not to over the 5,000 kms limit. If it was all highway driving I could see someone extending the intervals between oil changes.

Tranny flushes like you said can vary depending on wether the vehicle is used for towing or heavy duty use. I don't do either and try to stick to the recommendations
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