Have you driven a Ford lately?

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

...the new Fusions are really nice as well.

if you really think that you havn't driven a good car...I would take a mid 80's Volvo over a Fusion any day...had one for a rental...wow, such a POS

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I almost bought an F250 in '07 when I bought my GMC 2500. I just heard a lot of bad things about the 6.0 Liter diesel engine they were selling at the time. Ford engines are typically bullet proof but the diesels are built by international and they were having too many problems with injectors ect.

good thing you didn't buy the Ford, that 6.0L had the worst headgasket problems after 150k...not to mention that new mess of a motor, the 6.4L, wow, great idea that was!

looking forward to seeing the new 6.7L Ford built engine, however, will it stray me from my duramax....hell no

Ford has lost a lot of buisness in the "work truck" market, which has been picked up by GM, we'll see if they get it back

[Red_Baron]

I did my part by buying an 09 mustang GT.
The only reason GM may have possibly picked up any ground (I'd like to see numbers to back this up as very few mining companies use GM trucks) in the work truck market is because they were practically giving the trucks away.

[Dion]

I own a 2005 Escape. Best vehicle i've ever owned. Will buy another one when it's time to trade this one in.

[redforever]

I owned 2 Ford Explorers, 1991 and 1994 models, excellent vehicles, kept each almost 10 years and had no work done to them except standard maintenance like oil changes, a new set of tires and I think maybe brakes. Never even had to change the battery on either one.

We are on our second Ford truck, both diesels. First was a 1984 F250 series, we kept it for 11 years, the person who bought it is still using it. It did have some minor problem with the glow plugs, but Ford had some kind of recall and replaced them.

We now have a 1995 F250 diesel, the 7.2 power (super?) stroke or whatever it is called. Another excellent vehicle, pulls 4 horses in a trailer in the mountains, no problem whatsoever. It has manual hubs as did the the 1984 truck. The 1995 model has different glow plugs than the 1984 model and they have never been a problem.

With both trucks, just the normal oil changes and maintenance have been required.

People always approach us wanting to buy the 1995 model. It gets excellent mileage compared to the new trucks and the engine in it is great. No way will we sell, it only has 75000 km on it.

[Winsor_Pilates]

[Berger_4_]

Originally Posted by burn_this_city

I almost bought an F250 in '07 when I bought my GMC 2500. I just heard a lot of bad things about the 6.0 Liter diesel engine they were selling at the time. Ford engines are typically bullet proof but the diesels are built by international and they were having too many problems with injectors ect.

Plus they're bloody loud. Not as bad as the old Dodge Cummins but holy smokes do they howl when you're heading down the highway.

I think it's pretty hit and miss in regards to how finicky the injectors in those International's are. Our newer (2003 I think) semi had a couple injectors go on it after we bought it, but the late 90's one we've got hasn't had anything like that happen to it.

[Phanuthier]

What is it about Ford that kept their heads above water versus GM and Chrystler? Its not like GM and Chrystler were having trouble selling cars. It has to be in the operations costs, Ford was doing something different than the other 2 counterparts that failed. I thought I had read somewhere Ford had shifted major/pricey operations overseas a while ago, but I'm not sure if it was exactly that.

[HOOT]

I will never buy American for the rest of my life.

[Cliche]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

What is it about Ford that kept their heads above water versus GM and Chrystler? Its not like GM and Chrystler were having trouble selling cars. It has to be in the operations costs, Ford was doing something different than the other 2 counterparts that failed. I thought I had read somewhere Ford had shifted major/pricey operations overseas a while ago, but I'm not sure if it was exactly that.

http://jalopnik.com/5395082/ford-pos...-year/gallery/

just to throw water on good news.

Also judging from the comments, UAW is going to be bending them over during negotiations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Forward

[Phanuthier]

Originally Posted by Cliche

http://jalopnik.com/5395082/ford-pos...-year/gallery/

just to throw water on good news.

Thats kind of funny. I guess its just a PR stimulus to try and keep things positive.

If Ford wants to competitive and enter this new market, they arn't going to be able to dodge these sort of things on future financial statements and quarterly reports.

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Originally Posted by Red_Baron

...I'd like to see numbers to back this up as very few mining companies use GM trucks) in the work truck market...

don't know about mining and do not know exact numbers, just looking at trends in the patch, most guys who run their own trucks have switched to GM and most service companies which provide company vehicles 1 ton and 3/4 ton have as well

Originally Posted by redforever

We now have a 1995 F250 diesel, the 7.3 power (super?) stroke or whatever it is called...People always approach us wanting to buy the 1995 model. It gets excellent mileage compared to the new trucks and the engine in it is great. No way will we sell, it only has 75000 km on it.

fixed...and that 7.3L is a monster, very well built IMO...very shocking to hear of a '95 diesel with 75k clicks on it, I think I put 80k plus in one year on my truck, both personal and work...crazy! hold onto to that gem!

it's nice to hear of the old trucks still kickin it, without all the emissions BS they have now

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

What is it about Ford that kept their heads above water versus GM and Chrystler?

I think it has to do with commercial contracts, I could be out to lunch but I think it does contribute quite a bit to the overall profit margin...

- law enforcement services
- EMS/Fire services
- oilfield
- city vehicles

just an assumption from what I have noticed over the years

[Bring_Back_Shantz]

Originally Posted by Cliche

http://jalopnik.com/5395082/ford-pos...-year/gallery/

just to throw water on good news.

Also judging from the comments, UAW is going to be bending them over during negotiations.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Way_Forward

Damnit, this is exactly why I hate unions, and ESPECIALLY the UAW.
Seriously, Ford is the one American Car company who has managed to move towards profitability without a bailout, and the UAW thinks it's in their best interest to try to rake them over the coals?
Man they must have short memories, and incredibly bad vision.

[mykalberta]

Originally Posted by Phanuthier

What is it about Ford that kept their heads above water versus GM and Chrystler? Its not like GM and Chrystler were having trouble selling cars. It has to be in the operations costs, Ford was doing something different than the other 2 counterparts that failed. I thought I had read somewhere Ford had shifted major/pricey operations overseas a while ago, but I'm not sure if it was exactly that.

They started reorganization along time ago when they hired away a top Manager at Boeing to be their CEO. They have been been in the rebuild mode for along time compared to GM and Dodge who turned a blind eye to it and are now unfortunately propped up by Jon Q taxpayer.

[QuadCityImages]

I'm totally dreaming of buying this Escape sometime. 2010's start in the $18k range around here, which is almost doable for a poor guy like me.

[Ice]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

We have a 2005 Escape and love it. Almost 90K miles on it and the only thing we've had to do is change the brakes, tires and battery. The best vehicle I have ever owned was my '04 F-150. Dreamy.

We have a 2004 Escape that we use as the hockey car. It has 95,000 miles and we've never had a problem. I figure we'll drive it until it dies, which looks like its a long way off. Its the perfect size to be able to haul my kids gear and have enough room for him in the back, but small enough to fit in normal parking spaces and get decent gas mileage.

[Jiggy_12]

I own a 2008 Edge, love it.

[thesmugger]

Still don't like anything in the Ford lineup.. Fugly cars.

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by thesmugger

Still don't like anything in the Ford lineup.. Fugly cars.

Fair enough. What kind of cars do you like?

[henriksedin33]

its good to see at least one of the big 3 staving off death, but they are still trailing the Japanese and arguably Koreans in quality, IMO. Just seems like they're always 4-5 years behind the curve.

[Ford Prefect]

My next car will probably be a Fusion. I haven't owned a Ford for over 20 years, but the Fusion really interests me. I've been driving Chryslers lately, but they have their heads up their whazoos anymore. Time to move on again. I've gone through Ford, GM, Mazda and Chrysler phases. I was going to move on to Toyota or Hyundai next, but Ford has changed my mind.