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Old 10-15-2009, 09:40 PM   #21
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I agree with your post 100 percent though.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:42 PM   #22
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backlash!!!!!
Sorry to derail but that post really offended me.

yeah, that clown is right, the only ones who deserve props are the aboriginals. As if no one but them have ever done anything good for this country. Yes I know there are a lot of sensitive issues when it comes to the treatment of aboriginals and that they were s*** on by the Brits/Canadian government for a long time and that they still have it rough in a lot of ways but seriously, give me a break. "the only ones who deserve props" what a thing to say.
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The "First Nations" people should be the one' getting the props!!!!

Every one of these other Canadians that you would like to give credit to all immigrated from a different culture. Of course we aren't descendants of the "First Nations" people (I believe aboriginal is a derrogatory (sp) term) we are descendants of Scottish, Irish, English, Indian, African, Welsh, Chinese, Japanese etc. etc etc.

How would it be possible to acknowledge each of the 100 or so different "cultures" that make up or nation.

I am as proud a canadian as anyone but your comment has a touch of ignorance and small mindedness. Everyone likes to pile on the First Nations people as having no contribution to our "Canadian" culture, when in fact over the past 200 years we have done our best to impose our different cultures on the real indigenous people while stifling theirs.
True enough, we are made up of many different people, but it is the First Nations who call themselves Aboriginals now... it isn't derogatory.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:45 PM   #24
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I knew some bleeding heart wouldn't be able to resist.

First off the term aboriginal is about as offensive as disabled is to a handicapped person. So about zero.

Second, I never said they have no contribution to our culture. In fact your post makes you seem small minded and like you are a politician who could give two s***s about aboriginal people and you are just pandering to the PC crowd who think it is fashionable to pretend you care about Canada's indigenous peoples.

And effing eh there should be something in this Olympics that recognizes the fact that we are one of the most multicultural nations on earth. All those nationalities you've listed are no more or no less deserving to be honored than the aboriginals and the fact that the Olympic Committee (or whoever is in charge of all that stuff) ignored us is equally insulting as if they completely ignored the aboriginals when coming up with the designs for the 2010 Olympic games. It isn't about honoring each individual nationality, it is about recognizing that we are the greatest damn nation on earth and one who is respectful of our heritage. The symbols of the games should honor the fact that Canada, and in particular Vancouver, are great places, very multicultural and that we have a lot to offer the world.

Remember, CANADA is hosting these games, not aboriginals.

Personally I find your comment hypocritical, lame ass PC oriented, small minded, ignorant, totally un-heart felt and completely out to lunch.

If you want to pay lip service to the aboriginals, as you are doing, there are better ways than pretending that our country has treated them well (or that they have treated themselves well) in the last 200 years.

On that note, I can almost guarantee you that much of this so called "honoring" the aboriginals is in response to the fact that Canada has taken some serious international heat for our treatment of aboriginal people and this is our BS facade to make the world think everything here at home is honky dory and that us and the natives are all friends.
I am so happy that you can judge my personality and what I am like from my post!!

I know a few "First Nations" people and in fact YES calling them aboriginals is indeed offensive to them.

I find it laughable that you called my post small minded

Yes, the Olympics are being held in Canada but at the same time it is a chance for the local community to celebrate their regional heritage!

I don't think that anyone is trying to create a facade about our "relationship" with the first nations people. It is very well documented how poorly the first nations people have been treated.

The 1988 Calgary Olympics had regional specific mascots as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidy_and_Howdy


The only reason this is an issue with people is (in my belief) is because the "First Nations" people are getting a chance to be in the for front.

And of course I'm not going to resist responding to such an ridiculous post.

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Old 10-15-2009, 09:47 PM   #26
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What's wrong with round, flat medals?
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:47 PM   #27
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Sorry to derail this thread but i just got back from Wal-Mart and you get a free 3.97 dip if you buy 2 bags of ruffles for $5
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I love them. It is unique and has an aboriginal touch. I also love the Team Canada athletic ware... this is going to be a great Olympics!
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I know a few "First Nations" people and in fact YES calling them aboriginals is indeed offensive to them.
Someone should tell the First Nations peoples who put on the "Aboriginal Achievement Awards" that they are offending their own peoples!

I for one am very happy with Vancouver's decision to go with the aboriginal theme. It goes back to the roots and base of the land where the games are being held.
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Sorry to derail but that post really offended me.

yeah, that clown is right, the only ones who deserve props are the aboriginals. As if no one but them have ever done anything good for this country. Yes I know there are a lot of sensitive issues when it comes to the treatment of aboriginals and that they were s*** on by the Brits/Canadian government for a long time and that they still have it rough in a lot of ways but seriously, give me a break. "the only ones who deserve props" what a thing to say.
Nice with the name calling!! Way to show what the maturity level of the person I'm having this "discussion" with!!!

I never said that they should be the ONLY one's getting recognition, and I am sure that they will be celebrations of Canada's multi culture based society, but as these Olympics are being held in an area that is traditional rich in first nation heritage and art it should be celebrated in a big way. An event this scale only comes to an area once in a lifetime.
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I am so happy that you can judge my personality and what I am like from my post!!

I know a few "First Nations" people and in fact YES calling them aboriginals is indeed offensive to them.

I find it laughable that you called my post small minded

Yes, the Olympics are being held in Canada but at the same time it is a chance for the local community to celebrate their regional heritage!

I don't think that anyone is trying to create a facade about our "relationship" with the first nations people. It is very well documented how poorly the first nations people have been treated.

The 1988 Calgary Olympics had regional specific mascots as well.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hidy_and_Howdy


The only reason this is an issue with people is (in my belief) is because the "First Nations" people are getting a chance to be in the for front.

And of course I'm not going to resist responding to such an ridiculous post.

Your post has Redneck written all over it
I knew you'd have the audacity to call me a redneck.

And again you uneducated ****, aboriginal is NOT derogatory no matter what your friends say. I'm currently studying ABORIGINALS at the U of C and not only do THEY use the word but academics worldwide frequently use the term. First Nations is misleading and vague.

Instead of calling you a bunch of things that will get me an infraction I'll just quietly slip out of this thread and for once let the person I'm arguing with on CP let himself look like a jackass for his ignorant posts.
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Someone should tell the First Nations peoples who put on the "Aboriginal Achievement Awards" that they are offending their own peoples!

I for one am very happy with Vancouver's decision to go with the aboriginal theme. It goes back to the roots and base of the land where the games are being held.
There are quite a few terms that ethnic groups refer to themselves as but find it offensive if another ethnicity refers to them as that.

Just because they refer to themselves as Aboriginal doesn't mean they like the term used to describe them.
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I knew you'd have the audacity to call me a redneck.

And again you uneducated ****, aboriginal is NOT derogatory no matter what your friends say. I'm currently studying ABORIGINALS at the U of C and not only do THEY use the word but academics worldwide frequently use the term. First Nations is misleading and vague.

Instead of calling you a bunch of things that will get me an infraction I'll just quietly slip out of this thread and for once let the person I'm arguing with on CP let himself look like a jackass for his ignorant posts.
Ya sorry about that! I went back to delete calling you that but I guess I wasn't in time
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I'm currently studying ABORIGINALS at the U of C .
Well since you are Studying them, I guess I'll defer to the "expert"
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mmm, more aboriginal art.

guess that's the only thing the area is known for
Personally I'd rather be known for Aboriginal art than for chewing tobacco, cowboy hats, and country music.
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I don't mind them at all. Regardless of them probably overdoing the "native art" theme on the whole, it does provide a very clean and aesthetically pleasing design, and is something that I think alot of people associate with the PNW.

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You would think that based on what we've seen so far. It pisses me off. Show something to embrace the multi culturalism in our city. Let's see some mountains, or the ocean, or something beside aboriginal art.
I think the waviness is supposed to represent the ocean, at least thats what it brought to mind for me.
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right now I would have Brodeur, Ward, and Fleury...and yes, there is bias in that opinion
Right now, Iginla wouldn't make the team either
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This is officially better than the teacher thread.

Anyways, I'm not a huge fan of the FNMI art themes that seem to present in the Team Canada jerseys. The inserted image just seems unnessicary. And I mean FNMI art really doesn't do it for me anyways.
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