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3 Justin 3 · 09-29-2009, 01:45 AM

But is weed that bad. I've been to Amsterdam, and I didn't see people going crazy, killing each other, etc. I've done it, I didn't do anything crazy.

America needs to grow up. Canada should just decriminalize it already like the Netherlands have.

FunkMasterFlame · 09-29-2009, 01:57 AM

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Didn't Chong go to jail for the same thing?

Nope that was for paraphernalia ie. selling bongs.

jayswin · 09-29-2009, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

But is weed that bad. I've been to Amsterdam, and I didn't see people going crazy, killing each other, etc. I've done it, I didn't do anything crazy.

America needs to grow up. Canada should just decriminalize it already like the Netherlands have.

It's not that bad at all.

Savvy27 · 09-29-2009, 02:26 AM

This has been a very disappointing showing by the Canadian government. He shouldn't be facing jailtime at all, but to allow the Americans to extradite him over this is idiotic.

starseed · 09-29-2009, 03:02 AM

Canada's new strategy: If they get charged abroad, fata them. It is better that foreign country pay for the citizen's detention than for Canadian tax-payers to have to put them up in jail. As for those going to be executed, meh, they probably deserve it.

peter12 · 09-29-2009, 08:56 AM

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Canada's new strategy: If they get charged abroad, fata them. It is better that foreign country pay for the citizen's detention than for Canadian tax-payers to have to put them up in jail. As for those going to be executed, meh, they probably deserve it.

No, it's only if they have been given a fair trial in a country which practices Western-style rule of law.

MelBridgeman · 09-29-2009, 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by 3 Justin 3

But is weed that bad. I've been to Amsterdam, and I didn't see people going crazy, killing each other, etc. I've done it, I didn't do anything crazy.

America needs to grow up. Canada should just decriminalize it already like the Netherlands have.

It depends who you talk too..

tkflames · 09-29-2009, 10:14 AM

Meh! Regardless of whether you endorse pot or don't, the guy has made millions by breaking the law (specifically that of the United States). To me it is the exact same as a guy making his money off a poncy or a pyramid scheme. For those sucked into the pot debate, of course he is trying to polarize you...he is making millions!

CaptainCrunch · 09-29-2009, 11:12 AM

I don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy. He knew the laws in the United States and he broke them, and the U.S. is highly sensitized about drug laws.

This isn't even a debate about decriminalization (something I'm against unless there are strict conditions) Its about the stupidity of one man who thought that he was immune to the laws in place.

yads · 09-29-2009, 11:22 AM

The question isn't whether or not the US war on drugs makes sense, the question is whether or not he should be extradited under current laws. I think he should. Just because the Canadian authorities didn't care if he sold seeds to Canadian citizens, does not mean that the US authorities were cool with him doing the same to American citizens.

RougeUnderoos · 09-29-2009, 11:52 AM

How would we all feel about extradition if this guy, instead of getting pinched sending pot seeds to the States, had sent a Hustler magazine to Iran, and was now being extradited there to serve some time?

Would the tried and true "he broke the law, he has to pay the consequences" sentiment still rule?

4X4 · 09-29-2009, 11:58 AM

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How would we all feel about extradition if this guy, instead of getting pinched sending pot seeds to the States, had sent a Hustler magazine to Iran, and was now being extradited there to serve some time?

Would the tried and true "he broke the law, he has to pay the consequences" sentiment still rule?

Iran isn't our biggest trading partner and neighbour. They're actually on our shatlist right now. I don't think this is a valid comparison.

RougeUnderoos · 09-29-2009, 12:33 PM

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Iran isn't our biggest trading partner and neighbour. They're actually on our shatlist right now. I don't think this is a valid comparison.

Fair enough, but then it's just about business, not justice, and "he broke their law, he has to pay their price" is right out the window.

I wonder how the Americans would react if we were trying to extradite a gun shop owner from Idaho who sent a handgun to a guy in Canada. Would they allow us to put him in the can for five years?

mykalberta · 09-29-2009, 12:36 PM

Seeds were definately not illegal in Canada back in 1996 - thank you Amsterdam.

I think this is BS, if its legal in Canada, but illegal in the US - Canada should not deport them IMO

ken0042 · 09-29-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

How would we all feel about extradition if this guy, instead of getting pinched sending pot seeds to the States, had sent a Hustler magazine to Iran, and was now being extradited there to serve some time?

Would the tried and true "he broke the law, he has to pay the consequences" sentiment still rule?

I'm not sure that is a fair comparison. You are comparing something that is legal here but illegal there. In both Canada and the US selling pot seeds is illegal.

yads · 09-29-2009, 12:41 PM

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Fair enough, but then it's just about business, not justice, and "he broke their law, he has to pay their price" is right out the window.

I wonder how the Americans would react if we were trying to extradite a gun shop owner from Idaho who sent a handgun to a guy in Canada. Would they allow us to put him in the can for five years?

Why wouldn't they? Extradition treaties work both ways.

Canuck-Hater · 09-29-2009, 01:09 PM

Im sure prolonged use can mess you up, but smoking a joint once in a while isnt the worst thing in the world.

Weiser Wonder · 09-29-2009, 01:14 PM

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Im sure prolonged use can mess you up, but smoking a joint once in a while isnt the worst thing in the world.

It's different person to person. Just like alcohol some people can handle it and some can't.

RougeUnderoos · 09-29-2009, 01:16 PM

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Why wouldn't they? Extradition treaties work both ways.

I understand that extradition treaties work both ways, but politically, it wouldn't fly. They wouldn't do it. The guy wouldn't end up in prison in Canada and we all know it.

The main problem I have with this case is that we are basically bending over because we don't want to piss them off. It's not about justice. We are kowtowing to them. It's like sending a guy to jail for shipping a bottle of whiskey over the border, but here we are going along with it. We're following their stupid law just to keep up appearances.

CaptainCrunch · 09-29-2009, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

I understand that extradition treaties work both ways, but politically, it wouldn't fly. They wouldn't do it. The guy wouldn't end up in prison in Canada and we all know it.

The main problem I have with this case is that we are basically bending over because we don't want to piss them off. It's not about justice. We are kowtowing to them. It's like sending a guy to jail for shipping a bottle of whiskey over the border, but here we are going along with it. We're following their stupid law just to keep up appearances.

To me there's a big difference between breaking a morality law in Iran and breaking a actual drug related law in the States. Also did said person know that porn smuggling was a punishable offense in that country. Also because Canada doesn't exactly recognize the fairness of the courts in Iran I doubt that they would extradite them.

If someone sent kiddie porn into the States and you knew that he was getting 15 years in the can ( both literally and figuratively) as oppossed to the standard 1 year of prison or house arrest in a Canadian prison would you extradite him to the states.

Emery is a moron, he was tempting fate because he knew about the drug laws in the States but he was too stupid or too prideful to resist the temptation.

Its like kicking a bear in the nuts and standing there with a smile on your face because you don't think he's going to do anything about it. A person with common sense knows something bad is going to happen.