350 Safeway workers locked out at Edmonton ice cream plant and warehouse

[Locke]

Are you entitled to collect EI if you lose your job because you striked and then got fired/replaced? I mean, thats a lot like quitting really.

"Heres more money and more hours. No? Okay then, we'll give it to someone else."

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Which is kinda baffling as to why the employees and the Union don't want to accept an increase in hours. Safeway wants to provide them with more hours and a 14% raise over three years. What's not to like about this proposal? My bet is there's something in there which makes their jobs less secure. But even still it's baffling they won't take the raise.

Maybe they are scared they are going to outsource to India. hehe.

Anyone take MGIS321 at the U? One of the final projects is a collective bargaining where one team is the union and one team is the mgmt. Easiest negotiations ever, because the people who were on the union team didn't believe in any of their own positions. They just all caved. haha.

[Dion]

Union presidents message to the employees. Ohhhh and he's not happy camper.

http://www.gounion.ca/files/Sept%204...e_pending1.pdf

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

Doesn't Co-op own that title?

No i think it is Sobey's here in Calgary.

[JohnnyFlame]

Originally Posted by Regulator75

Doesn't Co-op own that title?

None of them really own the title if you(your wife in my case) shops correctly. She goes to each and every one of the grocery stores and buys items when on sale. They all have good prices on sale items.

If somebody is just going to walk in and buy items at a particular store then hey they obviously don't care about price anyway.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by Dion

Union presidents message to the employees. Ohhhh and he's not happy camper.

http://www.gounion.ca/files/Sept%204-09~lucerne_strike_pending1.pdf

I love that letter.

"You guys are fataing morons, but since you want to be fataing morons, here are the rules on how to properly be one. I think you are making a huge mistake, but anyone who decides not to participate in this mistake is a SCAB, and the devil incarnate."

[Sliver]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

You may want to look up "Pyrrhic victory".

I'd rather not and just assume it bolsters my view.

[Azure]

Screw them.

Fire them all and hire new people.

[metallicat]

Go union brothers and sisters? Nah, fata that. I hate unions, and I belong to one.

[Byrns]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Ever wonder why Safeway has the highest prices?

Superstore has the same exact union.

[CMPunk]

The last comparison I saw on CTV had Superstore as cheapest, then Safeway, Sobey's and finally Co-Op

[MarchHare]

Originally Posted by JohnnyFlame

None of them really own the title if you(your wife in my case) shops correctly. She goes to each and every one of the grocery stores and buys items when on sale. They all have good prices on sale items.

If somebody is just going to walk in and buy items at a particular store then hey they obviously don't care about price anyway.

Whoa, what? Is this a serious post?

Your wife drives from store to store to comparison shop for groceries? Are the savings (not to mention the wasted time) even worth it once you factor in the added cost of gas and wear & tear on your vehicle?

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Whoa, what? Is this a serious post?

Your wife drives from store to store to comparison shop for groceries? Are the savings (not to mention the wasted time) even worth it once you factor in the added cost of gas and wear & tear on your vehicle?

Uh yeah..

Can't be serious.

My and my wife's time is a lot more valuable than saving 8 cents off some Shake and Bake.

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Whoa, what? Is this a serious post?

Your wife drives from store to store to comparison shop for groceries? Are the savings (not to mention the wasted time) even worth it once you factor in the added cost of gas and wear & tear on your vehicle?

When I worked at Safeway back in University, every weekend we would get an older German lady come in and argue to the penny about every second item she bought. She would also try to use invalid coupons on most items and would prey upon new cashiers hoping to get breaks in her favor. It would take her probably 2 hours to get into and out of the store every week. We knew she did this at other stores in the area because our clerks would see CO-OP, Superstore, and Sobey's bags in her trunk when they helped her out to her car. She earned the nick-name 'Coupon Nazi' among the staff. The nickname transcended our store as my friends at competitor stores called her by the same nick-name. Most likely it took her all weekend to prepare her coupons, check prices, and shop. What a life!

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by troutman

So you don't have to stand in long lines with white trash?

You've never been to the Safeway in Ogden.

[HeartsOfFire]

Originally Posted by Sliver

I would love to be a CEO of a company going toe to toe with a union. I wouldn't give one inch...would rather see my company go tits up than give them one penny beyond fair.

Andrew Ryan? Is that you?

[Frequitude]

Originally Posted by DuffMan

Ever wonder why Safeway has the highest prices?

Their demand curve?

[Reaper]

Originally Posted by MarchHare

Whoa, what? Is this a serious post?

Your wife drives from store to store to comparison shop for groceries? Are the savings (not to mention the wasted time) even worth it once you factor in the added cost of gas and wear & tear on your vehicle?

Driving from store to store to compare prices would be ridiculous. It does pay to compare prices in the weekly flyers though. You buy items on sale at the store where they are the cheapest and then move on to the next store to buy their cheap items. It's usually not too hard to spend an extra hour shopping to save $40-50.

[jammies]

From the article, it looks like the main objection is raising the work week to 40 hours from 37. I fail to see how not wanting to change your hours - regardless of whether you're getting paid for it or not - isn't a valid reason to reject a contract.

Note that this is a LOCKOUT, not a strike, so it is the company who is forcing the workers onto the picket lines. I suppose if you have the temerity to reject a contract agreed upon by your lords and masters that firing you IS an appropriate response, though - it's too bad we don't still have public flogging or they really get what's coming to them.

PS - one of the big reasons I quit working at Bell was that they unilaterally raised our hours from 37.5 a week to 40. Some of us prefer more leisure to more money - I know it sounds crazy, but there it is.

[Dion]

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