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pope04 · 09-03-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

How does juice go through the floor?

Was he drinking really really really acidic orange juice?

Its his fault the juice fell on the floor, is it his fault the juice seeped through the floor - I would go after the landlord. I have been in many multilevel houses and when you spill something upstairs it doesnt seep through downstairs - at least in the houses I have been.

A friends laptop got doused with juice that came down through the light fixture from another roomie who spilt a jug of the stuff on the floor upstairs, and dismissed the incident, saying, too bad, you should have had renters insurance.

IgiTang · 09-03-2009, 04:09 PM

I would get the landlord invloved. They may actually be concerned about damage to the support beams from then being wet, creating a mold issue. Also, the drywall could be damaged. And if this came through a light ficture, perhaps there a fire hazard now, it being electircal and all.

As for the laptop, if it is still under waranty, get it repaired for free. Just dont explain it was force fed some juice. pleed ignorance.

My Fiance fed her laptop a martini a couple years ago. It was covered under warranty because we didnt volunteer any uneccesary information.

jammies · 09-03-2009, 04:09 PM

There has to be more to this story - did the guy just stare uncomprehendingly at the juice as it sat there and drained away? How did it drain into the light fixture, anyway - generally there is something called a "floor" which is physically present between one level and another.

IANAL, but I'd say it comes down to if the guy spilling the juice could have taken reasonable measures to prevent the spillage getting anywhere, and if it's reasonable to expect that he could have forseen it going between floors and damaging something in the room below. Spilling liquid directly onto someone's laptop is one thing, this is entirely another.

Rerun · 09-03-2009, 04:17 PM

What ever happened to accepting responsibility for damages that may have occured due to actions or inactions on someones part, in todays society?

Today, nobody wants to fess up and accept their responsibilities to make things right. Its all just FU... its not my problem, its yours.

Sad.

mykalberta · 09-03-2009, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pope04

A friends laptop got doused with juice that came down through the light fixture from another roomie who spilt a jug of the stuff on the floor upstairs, and dismissed the incident, saying, too bad, you should have had renters insurance.

Is there a point?

So what, a jug of juice, no one has spilled a Keg or a few beers on the main floor and magically it doesnt seep through the floor boards into the basement?

I would assume the guy attempted to clean the spill unless he/she is a complete pig. If he/she were to leave it then sure i might have seeped but I assume a level of basic cleanliness.

mykalberta · 09-03-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jammies

There has to be more to this story - did the guy just stare uncomprehendingly at the juice as it sat there and drained away? How did it drain into the light fixture, anyway - generally there is something called a "floor" which is physically present between one level and another.

IANAL, but I'd say it comes down to if the guy spilling the juice could have taken reasonable measures to prevent the spillage getting anywhere, and if it's reasonable to expect that he could have forseen it going between floors and damaging something in the room below. Spilling liquid directly onto someone's laptop is one thing, this is entirely another.

what he said.

macker · 09-03-2009, 04:35 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUvV0BOiE6E

pope04 · 09-03-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mykalberta

Is there a point?

You seemed to be unable to comprehend that a liquid could go through a light fixture, so I thought I'd clarify.

EDBTZ12 · 09-03-2009, 04:48 PM

How could you blame the guy upstairs though? It's not like he knew the juice would go through the floor. There is no way he or she would win anything in court. Nothing negligent happened.

JustAnotherGuy · 09-03-2009, 05:29 PM

Me thinks there is more to this story than is being told.

I dropped a full 4 litre jug of milk the other day. It made quite a mess but it did not seep through the floor.

If somehow this milk ruined somebody's laptop I would take responsibility and pay for it. How can somebody just walk away from the responsibility? I don't get people.

sclitheroe · 09-03-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherGuy

Me thinks there is more to this story than is being told.

I dropped a full 4 litre jug of milk the other day. It made quite a mess but it did not seep through the floor.

If somehow this milk ruined somebody's laptop I would take responsibility and pay for it. How can somebody just walk away from the responsibility? I don't get people.

Yeah, not sure really how the juice moved through the floor, I wasn't there, hence the hypothetical part of my post. Clearly someone did something to cause a small flood though, and it damaged someone else's property, I was curious who's insurance picks up the tab.

That is all.

JustAnotherGuy · 09-03-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sclitheroe

Yeah, not sure really how the juice moved through the floor, I wasn't there, hence the hypothetical part of my post. Clearly someone did something to cause a small flood though, and it damaged someone else's property, I was curious who's insurance picks up the tab.

That is all.

These days with insurance I wonder if a laptop would be covered without extra insurance. I wouldn't know either way. I do know that a few years back when I leased my computer they said I had to have proof that it had extra insurance converage. That could be a complete different thing though.

DOK · 09-03-2009, 05:54 PM

I think, lesson learned, can also apply. Have renters insurance. If the house burned down, or someone was injured on the property it could be horrific. Maybe the laptop lesson was a nice reminder.

The Goon · 09-03-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

I don't know about that. It sounds like a bit of a gay thing to do.

It depends on your motivation.

drewboy12 · 09-03-2009, 07:22 PM

my buddy spilled on his laptop, renters insurance covered it. Just had to have it checked out by a professional to say it was indeed wrecked. (visions did it)

CaramonLS · 09-03-2009, 07:36 PM

Is your ceiling made of corrugated cardboard? I'm being serious.

If it was your roommate spilling a jug of juice, then letting it ignorantly seep through the floor for 3-4 hours, then yes, he should pay for it.

If it was an honest mistake and he cleaned it up right away, I would talk to your landlord. Tell him to pay for your laptop or you'll be calling a building inspector to check your place out. There is absolutely NO WAY a building that is up to code should have juice seep through the floor so quickly and on to your laptop.

Ozy_Flame · 09-03-2009, 07:48 PM

Does your floor only leak juice? At least it's water proof.

4X4 · 09-03-2009, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Is your ceiling made of corrugated cardboard? I'm being serious.

If it was your roommate spilling a jug of juice, then letting it ignorantly seep through the floor for 3-4 hours, then yes, he should pay for it.

If it was an honest mistake and he cleaned it up right away, I would talk to your landlord. Tell him to pay for your laptop or you'll be calling a building inspector to check your place out. There is absolutely NO WAY a building that is up to code should have juice seep through the floor so quickly and on to your laptop.

Well... It's not completely out to lunch. It'd take a perfect storm, but it could happen.
Say the roommate dropped the jug of juice right beside a cold air return, and the juice went right in it. Then say that the HVAC installer did not duct tape the cold air ducts. That'd result in a bunch of juice pouring out of the cold air and on to the top of the main floor ceiling, looking for somewhere to flow. Then say that the path of least resistance has a light box directly in it's path... Bingo, juice raining out of a light. And since lights are usually strategically placed where they'll be most effective, it's not hard to believe that a laptop was directly below it.

The juice spiller is still an idiot.

sclitheroe · 09-03-2009, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by CaramonLS

Is your ceiling made of corrugated cardboard? I'm being serious.

My ceiling is fine

macker · 09-03-2009, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DOK

I think, lesson learned, can also apply. Have renters insurance. If the house burned down, or someone was injured on the property it could be horrific. Maybe the laptop lesson was a nice reminder.

True, but most policies have a $500 deductible if not $1,000 so how much was the damage anyways? Likely under the deductible? Besides computers are limited by just about every policy I have checked over and you would have to schedule it seperately and buy down the deductible to make it worth while. It would likely be about $1.50 per $100 of value to scedule the laptop and would cover it on a world wide basis not just at the residence. Any bike or computer that is worth more than $1,000 should likely be scheduled imo as they are basically not insured otherwise.