Fox News d-bag calls Obama a Racist

[HotHotHeat]

Glen beck tries so hard to stay relevant that it comes off as extremely entertaining. I've never encountered a guy that goes so far out of his way to be noticed. There's no way anyone could ever take him seriously. He's a walking, talking tabloid. In it for the money I guess. Good for him.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Azure

You're going to see Republican Congress in 1-1/2 years.

Sadly, I think that's too optimistic... I think those two morons (Pelosi and Reid) will need to wear on the voters for another 3 years...

[HotHotHeat]

Originally Posted by Byrns

I didn't see any apology in Obama's message. "I could have calibrated those words differently." Is not "I'm sorry"

Is admitting a mistake not a form of an apology?

[Azure]

Originally Posted by HotHotHeat

Glen beck tries so hard to stay relevant that it comes off as extremely entertaining. I've never encountered a guy that goes so far out of his way to be noticed. There's no way anyone could ever take him seriously. He's a walking, talking tabloid. In it for the money I guess. Good for him.

Exactly.

I get a kick out of his over the top stupidity.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

Back in 2001 and 2002 many were saying the same thing about never seeing a Democratic president again. These things are cyclical. What usually happens is that over time a government/party that has been in power too long tends to be the author of their own demise by becoming the very thing they protested against to get into power in the first place. Trust me there will be a day when the dems go too far for the American people and they'll elect enough Republicans.

Absolutely true. You may in fact see a Republican wave in the next midterm elections. The Senate is harder for them--the math is just not very appealing--but I would not be shocked to see the Republicans take Congress next election.


That is, unless they really hitch their wagons to this "birther" nonsense. That stuff is poison for them, if they would only realize it. Democrats are licking their chops at the thought of GOP congressional leaders kowtowing to the lunatic fringe of their party over the next 2 years.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Azure

You're going to see Republican Congress in 1-1/2 years.

Yes please. Not that I really believe that a Republican Congress is so much superior to a Dem Congress, but I'm a fan of having Congress and the President checking and balancing each other.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Yes please. Not that I really believe that a Republican Congress is so much superior to a Dem Congress, but I'm a fan of having Congress and the President checking and balancing each other.

I agree. However, I do think the GOP needs to pull its head out of its collective ass and start freezing out the lunatic fringe. If they don't become a mainstream party again, they'll be left out in the cold for a while, and I don't really think that's good for anybody.

I'd start by categorically rejecting "birther" types, and making it clear that Sarah Palin will come nowhere near the party in 2012.

[CaptainCrunch]

I completely agree, right now the fastest path of power for the republicans is to moderate their message.

Right now, I firmly believe that if the U.S. economony continues to falter, and doesn't show major signs of approval that Obama will be the first casualty at the next election.

But it depends on who the Republicans put into play. They need someone thats young and has a good solid grasp on recession based economies.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I completely agree, right now the fastest path of power for the republicans is to moderate their message.

Right now, I firmly believe that if the U.S. economony continues to falter, and doesn't show major signs of approval that Obama will be the first casualty at the next election.

But it depends on who the Republicans put into play. They need someone thats young and has a good solid grasp on recession based economies.

Can't argue with that. The economy, for better or worse, is Obama's problem now. Three years is a long time for people to forget their high hopes when he was elected.

On the other hand, if the economy drastically improves over the next 20 months, Obama might be very hard to beat.

The irony is how little control he actually has over either outcome.

[Cactus Jack]

Thank god for the CBC. Most Canadians don't know how good our national news is. If it weren't for Jon Stewart, I would never hear about idiots like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or Lou Dobbs and the whole world would be better off.

[metallicat]

I agree with Azure, and can't wait for this to turn into Gates thread part two.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

I agree. However, I do think the GOP needs to pull its head out of its collective ass and start freezing out the lunatic fringe. If they don't become a mainstream party again, they'll be left out in the cold for a while, and I don't really think that's good for anybody.

I'd start by categorically rejecting "birther" types, and making it clear that Sarah Palin will come nowhere near the party in 2012.

Absolutely. If it requires them to be "frozen out" for a term or two, so be it. I'm not a fan of the Dems being able to run roughshod, but I don't want the lunatic fringe to get another gasp of air.

First step is a strong leader to emerge that has the popularity and the vision to cut out the radicals, declare Palin an enemy to the party and transition the Republican Party back to the economic conservative policies that made it so popular (and away from the massive spending (it's true) and moral high ground BS that it takes currently).

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Cactus Jack

Thank god for the CBC. Most Canadians don't know how good our national news is. If it weren't for Jon Stewart, I would never hear about idiots like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh or Lou Dobbs and the whole world would be better off.

You mean the unbiased voice of left-of-centre Toronto residents?

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Absolutely. If it requires them to be "frozen out" for a term or two, so be it. I'm not a fan of the Dems being able to run roughshod, but I don't want the lunatic fringe to get another gasp of air.

First step is a strong leader to emerge that has the popularity and the vision to cut out the radicals, declare Palin an enemy to the party and transition the Republican Party back to the economic conservative policies that made it so popular (and away from the massive spending (it's true) and moral high ground BS that it takes currently).

The problem for the GOP is the primary math - that is, BOC's and other "morality" issue types tend to make or break any given candidate. McCain was really stupid in that he moved in that direction (by choosing Palin) after securing the nomination, rather than trying to move to the coveted centre.

[starseed]

I remember coming home from a trip to the US, the news was primarily about updates on the Anna Nicole Smith case with interruptions for the latest on Britney Spears' antics. When I came back home, I remember turning on the TV and watching that National on CBC, among other things, they provided an in depth report on the struggles of farmers in afghanistan. Not once did they mention the mindless pop-culture bull$hiz that is shoved down the gullets of the American public.

Make no mistake, we have it good up here.

[Azure]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

Absolutely true. You may in fact see a Republican wave in the next midterm elections. The Senate is harder for them--the math is just not very appealing--but I would not be shocked to see the Republicans take Congress next election.


That is, unless they really hitch their wagons to this "birther" nonsense. That stuff is poison for them, if they would only realize it. Democrats are licking their chops at the thought of GOP congressional leaders kowtowing to the lunatic fringe of their party over the next 2 years.

As stupid as the 'birther' stuff is.....it just shows what American politics are all about.

[Azure]

Oh, and I don't like what the Republicans present either.....but I just think having them fight over everything is a good thing.

Clinton actually ran a surplus while he was in office. With a Republican Congress.

[starseed]

Yep, say what you want about their tactics, the fact is that they work. Cater to the crazies, throw mud everywhere and anywhere and some of it will always stick. It does not matter how utterly stupid or trivial it is, as long as it gets people in a frenzy and to the polling stations.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Cactus Jack

Thank god for the CBC.

Are you serious? CBC... the last refuge of all Liberals and NDP supporters.

[Azure]

What I don't get about this whole 'birther' thing.....McCain's people checked it out during the primaries.

If there would have been anything to it, THEY would have surely presented it.