07-27-2009, 08:03 PM
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Took an arrow to the knee
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto
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Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
Lulz will be had for sure.
And you can't censor something just because you don't like it.
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Sure you can!
Those motherers over at 4chan are just a bunch of dumb s.
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07-27-2009, 08:05 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Oh how fortunate you are to not know what real internet censorship is...
Try living in China, where I haven't been able to access any social networking site (fb, twitter, blogger etc.) for coming on two months, where news is constantly filtered and you may only view news about social unrest in the country for a few minutes before it's taken down/blocked, where it's now required by law that all computers manufactured for sale in the country must include software which censors the internet and which the government can update in any way it sees fit, and where people have been known to disappear for their roles in spreading information about negative aspects of social conditions in China or using the internet to promote discontent.
I absolutely hate internet censorship.
Edit: also, China has been doing a phenomenally good job of locking down proxies recently. The old days of easily finding proxies are gone, and now even downloadable programs for finding functional proxies mostly seem to be failing. It's ridiculous!!!
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Last edited by JohnnyB; 07-27-2009 at 08:08 PM.
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07-27-2009, 08:07 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
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4chan is more moronic than offensive. If 4chan isn't your thing, your going to figure that out in about 10 secs. If a picture of a man open open mouth kissing a horse is going to ruin your day, don't go prowling on the net.
They are pretty dumb to go after 4chan, never pick a fight with someone who's crazy and has nothing to loose.
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07-27-2009, 08:10 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Oh, but I can access 4chan.
I guess it must be a favourite of the government officials here in China. They're known for their depravity anyways.
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07-27-2009, 08:14 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by alltherage
You know what? That place is such a disgusting ****hole that I would be happy if Telus and Shaw cut it off too IMO.
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The problem with censorship is where do you draw the line, by who's standards?
I know Shaw and Telus are private companies, but really Internet is moving towards being a basic need, almost like water or air.
I wouldn't mind it much there was lots of competition and you could choose a different ISP based on what they filter, but if I want really high speed here, there's not many choices.
There are tons of options for people who want to censor their Internet.
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07-27-2009, 08:17 PM
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The new goggles also do nothing.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnnyB
Oh, but I can access 4chan.
I guess it must be a favourite of the government officials here in China. They're known for their depravity anyways.
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Lol that's hilarious.
Do they allow encrypted packets? You could easily rent a cheap server somewhere and basically use it as your own proxy via SSH or something.
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07-27-2009, 08:31 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Shanghai
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Originally Posted by fotze
Have you china guys read the latest onion? Its been bought by a chinese national company.
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Thanks for that! I'll be sharing that with some people this week for sure.
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07-27-2009, 10:01 PM
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Missed the bus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DOK
I know I can just go see it for myself, but the comment about not being able to "un-see" something is disturbing to me. Can someone tell me what kind of stuff in on this site? I'm thinking dead people and horrible sex acts, but oddly, I thought you could get that stuff anywhere on the internet?
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Lets just say there is a disgusting amount of pedophiles (i forget what "teen-o-philes" are called) on there. All those jailbait motivationals (safe google search) come from there... and much of the crap on there is less than legal. There is a lot of really disturbing medical/gore stuff too.
Last edited by alltherage; 07-27-2009 at 10:04 PM.
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07-27-2009, 10:02 PM
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#29
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: hammer of justice crushes you
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It's basically for kids with no friends, who have no interests other than being cool on the internet.
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07-27-2009, 10:03 PM
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Missed the bus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bibtin Tex
It's basically for 40 year old men pretending to be 13 year old girls with no friends, who have no interests other than being disgusting perverts on the internet.
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fixed.
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07-27-2009, 10:06 PM
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: hammer of justice crushes you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alltherage
fixed.
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yea, that too 
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07-27-2009, 11:19 PM
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#32
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Redundant Minister of Redundancy
Self-Banned
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alltherage looks like he (she?) knows quite a bit about this 4chan site.
...jus sayin
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07-28-2009, 05:47 AM
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#33
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by alltherage
Yeah I posted before reading. 4chan is a place where i went there after hearing about it, some of the stuff was funny at first... and then I saw things I wish to God I'd never seen. Like seriously... brings that whole "can't unsee" thing to a serious head. It makes me physically ill.
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I was once pointed to 4chan for wallpaper by a buddy at school. Once I realized there was more porn in the wallpaper section than actual usable wallpaper, he suggested I check out the random images part of the site.
He pointed out one of the threads that was gifs, so I went in, only to realize they were gifs of people killing themselves...
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07-28-2009, 09:27 AM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary
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Is the O/P going to apologize to AT&T for falsely claiming that they cesored this filth site?
As for why didnt AT&T just for it for affected users. Probably 1 - time and resources. Its easier to do a full block than to go after each individ case. 2 - there is no guarantee from AT&T's side that this wouldnt have spread to other users there by adding more work and expense for AT&T.
If you are unable to run a site without causeing undue harm to a companys network, then you have no rights in regards to your customers accessing your site from that network.
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07-28-2009, 09:29 AM
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Not the one...
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Originally Posted by mykalberta
Is the O/P going to apologize to AT&T for falsely claiming that they cesored this filth site?
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No.
I posted their side of the story.
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07-28-2009, 09:45 AM
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Missed the bus
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CrusaderPi
alltherage looks like he (she?) knows quite a bit about this 4chan site.
...jus sayin
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He. And, yeah, unfortunately they get a lot of publicity and the filth machine keeps chugging along.
I went there a couple times and then made the decision to never ever go again after I saw what I'm 99% sure was underage girls. See my "can't unsee" post.
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07-28-2009, 09:55 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: in your blind spot.
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It is interesting that is was AT&T involved, that have been caught in an internet censorship scandal before:
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The incident happened during a Lollapalooza webcast over at AT&T's "Blue Room" media showcase. Pearl Jam's performance of their big 90's hit "Daughter" morphed into the melody from Pink Floyd's "The Wall," and Eddie Vedder served up a pair of anti-Bush lyrics to the tune. "George Bush, leave this world alone," he sang. "George Bush, find yourself another home."
Fans at the event got to hear the words in all their glory, but in the webcast, the lines were censored—AT&T made the decision to silence them, apparently believing that they would prove offensive to listeners.
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http://arstechnica.com/old/content/2...eutral-net.ars
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