Wafergate: Did Harper eat the communion wafer?

[Rerun]

Thank god we finally got a topic of discussion on here thats worthy of our attention and discussion. Frankly I'm getting tired of discussing the silly stuff like low ball offers and is or is not Michael Jackson a pedifile.

Now we've finally got something we can get our teeth into.

Carry on people. I can hardly wait for the next posting.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by octothorp

Well, you are the one who posted the story here. If it's not news that Harper might have stuck a wafer in his pocket, how is it news that some news agencies think it is news? Seems just a tad hypocritical.

Or were you hoping that the discussion of the thread would ignore the original incident completely and focus entirely on whether the media reaction was justified?

lol wut?

If we couldn't mock the media for their terrible news coverage, what would we have left to talk about.

[bcb]

Zionist Conspiracy, Bush lover, Neocon blah blah blah....

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by bcb

Zionist Conspiracy, Bush lover, Neocon blah blah blah....

And even worse. He might be a Leafs fan.

[octothorp]

Originally Posted by Thor

lol wut?

If we couldn't mock the media for their terrible news coverage, what would we have left to talk about.

Yeah, let me rephrase that. I agree with the OP that it's a media non-issue, but by starting a thread about it (even about the media reaction to it), Flip is just drawing more attention to an issue that he feels the media should be ignoring. Sort of like the coverage of Palin in the last election; so much of her press was about how the media was handling and treating her.

And yes, by posting in this thread, I'm just exacerbating the problem. And so are the rest of you! Everyone stop talking about this now!!!

[troutman]

Originally Posted by alltherage

Also, to clarify, it appears that (as of 2001) 43.6% of Canadians are Catholic. That means roughly 13.5M people care. Link.

How many are Catholic by name only, and how many actively practice?

[Thor]

Originally Posted by troutman

How many are Catholic by name only, and how many actively practice?

Thats the more telling statistic, so here:

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-008-...097602-eng.htm

in 2002 age 15-29 shows a 48 low religiosity score, almost half the young people, this 7 years ago.

and the link to the study and its conclusions

http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/11-008-...1/9181-eng.htm

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by troutman

How many are Catholic by name only, and how many actively practice?

Definitely. I'm a militantly non-practicing RC, and I know a lot of other people who are the same.

[alltherage]

Originally Posted by troutman

How many are Catholic by name only, and how many actively practice?

Excellent point. I personally think that many non-practising Catholics (like myself) would still have an interest in this story. Except fotze.

[Thor]

Originally Posted by fotze

I am catholic and don't give a fata. We need a priest michael Jackson combo joke though

Michael Jackson went to church and confessed "Forgive me father, for I have sinned with young boys". The priest replied "It's OK, I have done it also."


The Pope has issued a proclamation on Michael Jackson. If he hears any more allegations about little boys, the Pope says he'll have no choice but to make him a priest.


Q: What is the difference between Michael Jackson and a Catholic priest?
A: Nothing


Q: What do Michael and Catholic school nuns have in common?
A: Both are a pain in the ass to kids.

[Kidder]

Growing up I heard a story where someone took part in a Catholic communion, accepted the bread but didn't feel like eating it so they held it in their hand until after the service and threw it in the garbage.

Somehow the Priest caught wind of the action and had to root through the garbage to find the bread and then consume it, so to not forsake the body of Christ.

Ah, transubstantiation. The problems you can cause.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally Posted by troutman

How many are Catholic by name only, and how many actively practice?

I haven't been practicing for several years and am not really offended by what Harper did. I still consider myself a Catholic in the cultural sense, but am fairly non-religious.

If maybe he expressed anti-Catholicism in the past, or blatantly spit it out... or something like that, then I'd probably be offended. To me, he is just a guy who made a mistake. If no offense was intended (if it's even true), then I take no offense.

[redforever]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I'm not 100% sure, but if he is Protestant, he should never have accepted it to begin with as he would have never have gone through the Catholic rites of First Communion at around the age of 12. I know some Protestants might have the same thing, but I don't think the Catholic church recognizes it.

Really, who cares. I don't... The proper ettiquette would have been not to accept the communion to begin with if he didn't want it. It makes me glad that I stopped caring about Canadian politics for the most part.

In many places now, there is no longer such a huge distinction between the faiths and how they practise their rites.

In the community I grew up, you can now take communion in most churches, no matter what your faith might be.

Most have come to the conclusion that rites within different churches are more alike than they are different. How the rite is performed might differ slightly, the age at which the rites are offered might differ, but most recognize the differences are not significant enough to deny people those rites.

Small people try to make it big news, hence stuff in the papers about Harper that is non-news.

[Traditional_Ale]

Religion is the greatest cancer of humanity.

[Ford Prefect]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Religion is the greatest cancer of humanity.

Probably the hardest one to cure too.

[LChoy]

Without doing any research on it, what's the reason for practitioners to eat the bread/the flesh of Jesus? To have him part a part of you?

Also I mean this in all good intentions. If the host is transformed into the flesh of Jesus, is it a specific part? Doesn't religion frown on cannibalism? or is it because it's reserved for worship of god and Jesus, so eating your neighbour would be blasphemy

Sorry, I think too much...

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

Religion is the greatest cancer of humanity.

And probably its greatest savior too.... not that I've been saved...

I, like many others, am a lapsed catholic. Can't remember the last time I partook in communion, or attended church for that matter.

[Rerun]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Without doing any research on it, what's the reason for practitioners to eat the bread/the flesh of Jesus? To have him part a part of you?

Also I mean this in all good intentions. If the host is transformed into the flesh of Jesus, is it a specific part? Doesn't religion frown on cannibalism? or is it because it's reserved for worship of god and Jesus, so eating your neighbour would be blasphemy

Sorry, I think too much...

Its just a symbol. Catholics really don't believe that wine turns into the blood of Christ or the bread changes into his flesh.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

Without doing any research on it, what's the reason for practitioners to eat the bread/the flesh of Jesus? To have him part a part of you?

Just another dopey ritual the church concocted to make sure people come to church so that they can jack them for money.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Just another dopey ritual the church concocted to make sure people come to church so that they can jack them for money.

And I thought it was just a way to get altar boys used to putting into their mouths whatever the Priest tells them to.