Manny Ramirez gets 50 games for positive drug test!

[habernac]

Nothing wrong with the game. The problem was a player's association and a commissioner who turned a blind eye to a problem that was obvious to anyone years ago. Fehr and Selig should be held accountable.

[transplant99]

When asked if he was aware if he took them, Manny replied...

"i thought they were altoids".

[fredr123]

That's just Manny being Barry...

[GirlySports]

I'm pretty bummed out about this, it would really be unfortunate if it simply was presciption mistake.

He's an amazing hitter. He's not known for his power numbers, hitting no more than 45 homers in a year. not like he was Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa hitting broken bat home runs.

He just known for being clutch which no steroid could help. Hope baseball come out with the details and it's just a mistake.

[Papi34]

Oh for Eff sakes. Another black eye for baseball.

When the A-rod thing was released all my buddies were like oh as a huge red sox fan this must be heaven for you. My response, "This is the darkest day of my life when it comes to baseball."

Why you ask? A-rod was the last chance of a clean record holder in baseball he was going to beat bonds on nothing but pure generational talent and in a matter of seconds all that was lost. I want to see great players do great things. Im tired of the steroids im tired of tainted legacys. I cannot be happy when a-rod is exposed simply because im a Sox fan cause I knew that this day would come. I knew that at some point one of the many great red sox I have grown up watching, admiring, and idolizing would be caught up in this mess. I know Manny is no longer a sox but he played a long long time and was one of the best players to ever dawn the "B"

Ill wait to see what the drug was but right now im feeling pretty crushed but not in the least bit surprised. It was just a matter of time... and it will be just a matter of time before other greats like Guerro, Pujos, Jeter, and Griffey get exposed.

Its a sad sad day to be a baseball fan

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by moon

Pujols was only suspected because of a garbage list posted on the internet of supposed guys listed in the Mitchell Report. The list was proven to be complete garbage.

He may have used them, although I doubt it, but him being "suspected" is not based on any sort of fact or anything resembling evidence.

I think that's the point that I was trying to get at. Even guys whose names are indirectly linked to "evidence" like what you're describing are "suspected" of using something.

It's brutal because I was holding out hope that A-Rod was going to be the one true baseball player that could wipe out all of Barry's records and re-legitimize baseball. After A-Rod admitted to using the only two "sluggers" left were Manny and Pujos. With Manny now directly linked I can't help but think it's only a matter of time before Pujos is busted.

The list is now unbelievably long of guys that have been linked with actual evidence and those that have admitted: Bonds, Clemens, Pettite, A-Rod, McGwire, Sosa, Tejada, Palmero, Manny, Ankiel, Canseco, etc...

You know there are more blood hounds out there like Selena Roberts looking to make their name by taking down another superstar.

[fredr123]

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4148907

Allegedly the drug in question was hCG (wikipedia explanation).

There's this:

In the world of performance enhancing drugs, hCG is increasingly used in combination with various anabolic androgenic steroid (AAS) cycles. It is included in some sports' illegal drug lists.
When AAS are put into a male body, the body's natural negative-feedback loops cause the body to shut down its own production of testosterone via shutdown of the hypothalamic-pituitary-gonadal axis (HPGA). It is a common misconception that estrogen will be elevated post cycle. Generally, estrogen is below a normal level after a cycle.[11] High levels of AASs that mimic the body's natural testosterone trigger the hypothalamus to shut down its production of gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) from the hypothalamus. Without GnRH, the pituitary gland stops releasing luteinizing hormone (LH). LH normally travels from the pituitary via the blood stream to the testes, where it triggers the production and release of testosterone. Without LH, the testes shut down their production of testosterone, causing testicular atrophy.
In males, hCG mimics LH and helps restore and maintain testosterone production in the testes. As such, hCG is commonly used during and after steroid cycles to maintain and restore testicular size as well as endogenous testosterone production. However, if hCG is used for too long and in too high a dose, the resulting rise in natural testosterone will eventually inhibit its own production via negative feedback on the hypothalamus and pituitary.

and then there's this:

In the male, hCG injections are used to stimulate the leydig cells to synthesize testosterone. The intratesticular testosterone is necessary for spermatogenesis from the sertoli cells. Typical uses for hCG in men include hypogonadism and fertility treatment.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Papi34

Its a sad sad day to be a baseball fan

I'm not sad.

The days of the quarter-billion dollar big bopper are gone, replaced by solid contact hitters and smart baseball - like the Angels (maybe the Jays too) brand.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Gozer

I'm not sad.

The days of the quarter-billion dollar big bopper are gone, replaced by solid contact hitters and smart baseball - like the Angels (maybe the Jays too) brand.

The Jays are boppers

But this is what makes me sad. Manny isn't a bopper. Even when people were hitting 70 home runs he never hit more than 45. His career average is over .310. He's going to get 3000 hits if he plays another 4 years.

He's one of the best hitters we've ever seen. Steroids doesn't help that.

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Gozer

I'm not sad.

The days of the quarter-billion dollar big bopper are gone, replaced by solid contact hitters and smart baseball - like the Angels (maybe the Jays too) brand.

I wouldn't put the Angels in that category. They've spent big money on big hitters.

[Dion]

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

The Jays are boppers

But this is what makes me sad. Manny isn't a bopper. Even when people were hitting 70 home runs he never hit more than 45. His career average is over .310. He's going to get 3000 hits if he plays another 4 years.

He's one of the best hitters we've ever seen. Steroids doesn't help that.

Yes it does. It makes him run faster. so normally a ground out turns into a single.

Also there is no way he can play in the outfield with that body without the help of steroids.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

I'm pretty bummed out about this, it would really be unfortunate if it simply was presciption mistake.

He's an amazing hitter. He's not known for his power numbers, hitting no more than 45 homers in a year. not like he was Barry Bonds or Sammy Sosa hitting broken bat home runs.

He just known for being clutch which no steroid could help. Hope baseball come out with the details and it's just a mistake.

Sounds like he got something prescribed and he didn't bother to check the ingredients. Pretty dumb on his part. He sort of takes responsibility in his official statement, but in the end, he's the guy who has to make sure what he's taking isn't on the banned list.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Yes it does. It makes him run faster. so normally a ground out turns into a single.

Also there is no way he can play in the outfield with that body without the help of steroids.

For a guy who thinks baseball isn't worth watching, you sure seem to think you know a lot about it. If you paid attention, you'd know that Manny has no idea how to play the outfield.

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by habernac

For a guy who thinks baseball isn't worth watching, you sure seem to think you know a lot about it. If you paid attention, you'd know that Manny has no idea how to play the outfield.

Well you can't argue that. You win!

I think i might take up cricket.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Yes it does. It makes him run faster. so normally a ground out turns into a single.

Also there is no way he can play in the outfield with that body without the help of steroids.

It's Manny! He never runs out a ground ball!
And he's a goofball in the outfield!

[Boblobla]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Baseball will not be missed if it goes away. I feel sorry for the sucker fans who pay millions to watch these 'athletes' play.

You are deluded if you think hockey players are any better.

[skins]

http://www.calgaryherald.com/Calgary...286/story.html

HA!

[Bertuzzied]

Originally Posted by Boblobla

You are deluded if you think hockey players are any better.

Because all hockey players are on roids?

hmm at least they have a bit of pride in themselves. the fattest guy in the NHL is Wellwood or Penner? Well they are prob in better shape than 80% of the guys in baseball.

[Gozer]

Originally Posted by Bertuzzied

Because all hockey players are on roids?

hmm at least they have a bit of pride in themselves. the fattest guy in the NHL is Wellwood or Penner? Well they are prob in better shape than 80% of the guys in baseball.

If you hate baseball so much, why post about it?