Treadmills vs outside. Differences?

[Temporary_User]

Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I don't think the two are really even comparable. The amount of work it takes to run a mile outside, is way more than what it takes to run a mile on the treadmill.

Anyone know technically why though?
Is it just the harder surface?

[johnnyluv]

The propulsion vs. maintaining position bit may have something to do with it. Not to mention that your leg muscles probably tire faster because they have to adjust to the uneven terrain. Beyond that, there is wind, which is a tremendous piss-off if it's in your face.

Oh, and I think the best paved trail in Calgary is through Fish Creek. You can't find better scenery in the city.

[DementedReality]

1) what is an out and back?
2) when someone says running outside is better, do you mean aesthitically or is it in fact better excersize?
3) how about the eliptical? is 4k on one of these better excersize than running 4k (inside or out)?

enquiring minds want to know.

[moon]

Running in general is so boring that at least with a treadmill you can sort of make it bearable.

Plus with the crap weather in Canada running outside is only feasible what 2-3 months a year.

Running on a treadmill kicks the crap out of running outside.

[Locke]

I prefer the treadmill, I HATE running outside, but the outside running I usually is at soccer practice. I used to run at the track at the University but that too wasnt as great.

I like that the treadmill keeps a constant pace. Running is boring, no question, and I found that when my mind wanders my pace becomes erratic.

Originally Posted by DementedReality

1) what is an out and back?
2) when someone says running outside is better, do you mean aesthitically or is it in fact better excersize?
3) how about the eliptical? is 4k on one of these better excersize than running 4k (inside or out)?

enquiring minds want to know.

1) An 'out and back' means that you run to wherever, a landmark of some kind, and then you have to run back to wherever the hell you came from.

2) Thats pretty much the argument here, outside is unforgiving but more interesting whereas a treadmill is boring but has shock absorption and a constant pace.

3) Only women use ellipticals. No, they're good but I dont really know about their benefits versus a treadmill.

[calf]

I'm an outdoors guy - I find it way more motivating/tougher given you have to propel yourself.

The thing I hate about the tredmill is if I get bored halfway through, it's easy enough to turn off. If you get bored halfway through your run, you have to run that distance all the way back...

[dubc80]

I guess I'm the opposite of most of the posters here. I prefer a treadmill to running outside.

On a treadmill, Im forced to keep up and stay focused. I can set a pace and a time and finish.

When I run outside, I'm less disciplined and I'm unable to push myself as much which leads to stopping, walking, etc.

[browna]

Well, to slowly get back in shape, motivation is key. Part of that motivation is being able to compare results and track progress.
In this climate, even if you manage to make time for yourself away from family and work duties, and stick to a plan, spring and summer weather in Alberta may force you to postpone your planned run. Getting in shape and staying in shape last longer then the late spring and summer in the province, so when fall and winter hits, you'll have to change up the routine anyways.

My plan over the past couple years has been an ipod (the Nike+ system is extra motivation), ideally the TV...and the treadmill out at the gym. That way, you've made the effort and gotten out of the house to go to the gym (treadmill at home would still have all the distractions), and the treadmill allows a consistent environment, able to have your pace dictated for you. You can then zone out and watch TV or listen to music.

Don't get me wrong, those nice days in the summer, go outside for a run and enjoy. But it is different, gradual slopes, wind, temperature all can vary day in and day out.

Getting into a routine and have a steady environment is the best plan for getting motivated and staying motivated. Having an inside environment, somewhere you can go day or night, rain or snow, winter or summmer, outside of the home, is the way that I've found myself able to best keep up, motivation wise.

[Sainters7]

Definitely hear ya on the treadmill being boring thing. I'm an outdoors guy myself, its nice to get a workout when surrounded by nature. Something about running bores the crap out of me though, which is why I generally rollerblade. Its a great workout too, especially in the legs. Bikes are good too but I find em a little too cumbersome, especially when crossing the street & stuff. Rollerblades are a nice happy medium for me.

[kermitology]

I can go either way, but I tend to run on the treadmill more because I can control things more. I have problems with my knees and that causes me to have to cut my runs short to prevent myself from injury. Plus I like to do hill training with the runs and I like how the treadmill helps me manage that.

I cycle to work every day (in winter too), so I get my time outside.

I'd like to run outside once I can get my knees in better condition.

[FiftyBelow]

I prefer running outside as well. Especially since I live on campus here at UBC, the view of the mountains and the Georgia Straight make it really enjoyable. Although you can usually run year round over here... the stupid rain causes so much puddles that sometimes I'd just rather use a treadmill.

[Flame Of Liberty]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I've trained for and run four marathons. Outside is better than a treadmill. Wayyyyyyy better. Especially in summer when the ladies are out.

But the thing is you have to run all the way to Winnipeg to see them

[VladtheImpaler]

I just ran 17 miles on the treadmill Sunday - the key is a lot of sensory stimulants: a good magazine to read, FAN960 and porn on the TV. But, really, I prefer outside - I am actually concerned about the Calgary marathon being moved up to May 31 - not sure if all my running on the treadmill is adequate training. However, as someone else mentioned higher up, the money I spent on the treadmill 3.5 yrs ago - best money I've spent.

[killer_carlson]

oh are my feet and knees sore today.

Any tips to reduce impact when running outside? I do have a good, new (but broken in) pair of high end saucony's that I wore, but damn, I can hardly walk right now.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

oh are my feet and knees sore today.

Any tips to reduce impact when running outside? I do have a good, new (but broken in) pair of high end saucony's that I wore, but damn, I can hardly walk right now.

Stretch THOROUGHLY before and after - I mean hold your stretch positions for 45+ secs each. Make sure you are properly hydrated. Maybe you are running too far? The only time I can hardly walk is when I push myself beyond normal, like a marathon, or running a 1/2 marathon fast. As long as you build up gradually from a reasonable base you should never be in that much pain/discomfort.

[JD]

Yeah, the first few times you run it's gonna hurt regardless. Your body needs to get conditioned for it. Just make sure you're stretching and drinking lots of water, as mentioned.

Good nutrition and proper rest will help your body heal faster too.

The technical reasons for outside being tougher than indoors? I would guess wind, inconsistent surface, and variations in slope would be the reasons. I don't think you actually push yourself on a treadmill either. You just lift your foot to the same landing spot. Outside, you actually have to push, if you want any amount of velocity that is!

And for all you nancies that won't run in the winter... do you avoid skiing in the winter? Cross country? Downhill? Tobagganing? Get yourself a couple layers of clothing and get out there! You'll be amazed at how cold you can go without it bothering you. I've been out there in -25°C with my ski goggles on and everything.

[VladtheImpaler]

Originally Posted by JD

And for all you nancies that won't run in the winter... do you avoid skiing in the winter? Cross country? Downhill? Tobagganing? Get yourself a couple layers of clothing and get out there! You'll be amazed at how cold you can go without it bothering you. I've been out there in -25°C with my ski goggles on and everything.

I've run in -20 or so too, and it's fine with proper insulation - the problem for me in the winter is not the cold, as much as it is traction.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by killer_carlson

oh are my feet and knees sore today.

Any tips to reduce impact when running outside? I do have a good, new (but broken in) pair of high end saucony's that I wore, but damn, I can hardly walk right now.

KC, if you can, try to run on something that isn't pavement. Especially when you're just starting to get into it. This is where a treadmill would be very beneficial. A lot easier on the joints.

[bigtmac19]

The instructor in our class always says not to run every day, you should go every other day.

[MoneyGuy]

To those who fear the cold, I've trained through winters and have run in the worst winter that Alberta can throw at me. I don't ever remember missing a training run because of cold and have run in temps well into the minus 30s. I do not, however, run in temps in the plus 30s. Layer up and you're fine in cold. I had a friend who always warned me I'd freeze my lungs. Wives' tale, that is. The problem in winter is bad footing. I've taken a few nasty tumbles, but cold is not a problem if you dress for it.