Getting arrested by the Transit Police

[Superflyer]

Actually this was on the news the other day, not her but transit cops, one of the aldermen, can't remember which one, was saying that the police should take over the transit cops job to make things safer and in turn the transit cops could become actual cops.
They then went on to say that right now transit cops can write tickets and arrest people. I remember because that stuck out as odd, but they can arrest people that are drunk, unruley, dangerous etc and take them to the police station.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by cyclone3483

No idea, we weren't there. But I have been told that part of their training is also to pick up on cues that might indicate a guilty conscience (looking at the cops, then away or turning away...moving away from them...etc.). If they saw those cues, they might have headed straight for her. So maybe not so much racial profiling, but body language profiling.

IF they were racial profiling, I'd have a big problem with it.

But I'm cute and Asian and always look away from cops and I've never been checked for a ticket on the C-Train ever!

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

I think it's because she was the only african american woman on the platform and she said they walked right to her and asked to see her ticket. They usually just canvas on the train and check everybody but she claims the picked her out on the platform. Now she thinks Calgary is like the deep south of Canada (which the rest of Canada thinks anyway).

Was she at the one by the Crack Macs because they take no prisoners at that station....or rather...they do indeed take prisoners apparently.

I think racial profiling might be erring on the side of raging hyperbole. Then again, they might have been concerned about the crazy black woman who was looking a little twitchy around transit cops and who was standing there obviously seething with rage prepared to kill the first thing she sees.

[Wookie]

Originally Posted by cyclone3483

Watch it. Be careful not to cross lines just to make a funny.

I've adopted two kids from Haiti.

[GreenTeaFrapp]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

But I'm cute and Asian

That's not what the green text is for.

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by GreenTeaFrapp

That's not what the green text is for.

Sure it is!

[troutman]

Can't anyone make an arrest? Citizen's arrest?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

A citizen's arrest is an arrest made by a person who is not acting as a sworn law enforcement official.[1] In common law jurisdictions, the practice dates back to medievalEngland and the English common law, when sheriffs encouraged ordinary citizens to help apprehend law breakers.

Canada
Section 494. (Criminal Code)[6]
(1) ARREST WITHOUT WARRANT BY ANY PERSON
Any one may arrest without warrant
(a) a person whom he finds committing an indictable offence; or
(b) a person who, on resonable grounds, he believes
(i) has committed a criminal offence, and
(ii) is escaping from and freshly pursued by persons who have lawful authority to arrest that person

[Locke]

Originally Posted by Wookie

Does she nag a lot too? Is she totally a nagger?

Is she Wanda Sykes?

[Jayems]

Originally Posted by troutman

Can't anyone make an arrest? Citizen's arrest?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

Only if they witness an indictable offense, are paid to watch a property and a crime happens on that property (security) or if the police are in pursuit of someone... something like that. They must be turned over to the cops.

[psicodude]

Originally Posted by troutman

Can't anyone make an arrest? Citizen's arrest?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizen's_arrest

I worked security at the Saddledome years ago (worst. job. ever) and that is exactly what they said. They did make it clear that we were only allowed to make a citizens arrest on Dome property, however. We were allowed to detain someone if they were damaging property or assaulting someone. 99% of the time though, the cops were there within seconds anyway, so I never saw an employee actually arrest someone.

Edit - Yeah, exactly what Jayems just said!

[mykalberta]

How can the cops arrest her on the platform?

You dont need a ticket to stand on the platform. Her story seems suspsect IMO.

If she is telling the truth, that she was arrested on the platform, then her story holds weight IMO. Also, suspect profiling isnt accomplished properly by cops with 30 years of expierience and making 3X as much, I dont trust transit constables to do it.

[MelBridgeman]

She is lucky she doesn't live in BC!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...t.html?ref=rss

police used stun guns on people who fled during fare checks.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

How can the cops arrest her on the platform?

You dont need a ticket to stand on the platform. Her story seems suspsect IMO.

If he is telling the truth, that she was arrested on the platform, then her story holds weight IMO. Also, suspect profiling isnt accomplished properly by cops with 30 years of expierience and making 3X as much, I dont trust transit constables to do it.

Yes you do. The signage is clear, the platform is a 'fare paid zone.'

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

How can the cops arrest her on the platform?

You dont need a ticket to stand on the platform. Her story seems suspsect IMO.

Technically, yes you do (at most stations at least). Notice those signs before you enter the platform that says that you are entering a paid fare zone - meaning you have to have a valid paid fare to go beyond that point?

edit: b10.

[mykalberta]

Even downtown?

When I was here 6 years ago I worked downtown and lived in the NW, I would wait on the platforum until the train arrived, then get my ticket to maximize the time.

The whole 8 months I was here I was only searched by cops 6 times, and every time was either downtown to Sunnyside, or Northtown mall to Banff Trail.

Guess you learn somethign everyday.

If thats the case and they didnt ask anyone else for tickets, then she might have a beef.

[Russic]

^^ downtown is a free fare zone. It is different.

It could really be as simple as she knew she didn't have her transfer, saw the transit cops and started looking panicky. Shame she's blaming it was racial. It would be a lot easier to feel bad for her if she wasn't breaking a law.

I'm not sure why it's never occurred to me that they can arrest people. I'm sure they see some pretty dangerous characters from time to time.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by MelBridgeman

She is lucky she doesn't live in BC!
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/british-col...t.html?ref=rss

To be fair...they were hippies...they should have just used their guns but I guess taser lethality is getting up there...

[Phaneuf3]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

Even downtown?

everywhere except for the 7th ave 'free fare' zone.

[PsYcNeT]

Originally Posted by mykalberta

Even downtown?

When I was here 6 years ago I worked downtown and lived in the NW, I would wait on the platforum until the train arrived, then get my ticket to maximize the time.

The whole 8 months I was here I was only searched by cops 6 times, and every time was either downtown to Sunnyside, or Northtown mall to Banff Trail.

Guess you learn somethign everyday.

If thats the case and they didnt ask anyone else for tickets, then she might have a beef.

Again, read the signage. Downtown (7th ave) is a "Free fare zone".

You don't have to pay to ride the train downtown, ergo, you don't a need pass to be on the platform.

Edit: Damn, beaten

[Ducay]

As stated, they aren't 'arresting' you, they are detaining you for the police.

What would bethe offense they are detaining you for? Trespass?