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Old 02-23-2009, 03:27 AM   #21
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Why don't people invest in radar jammer and/or detector?

I haven't got one ticket since getting one 4 years ago or so, and has paid for itself MANY times.

Also I agree with 4X4, they could pick their spots better. I'd prefer to see them in mainly school zones where little kids could be hurt, or in construction zones where people could get injured for someones speeding. Hanging out on Deerfoot and getting people for going 10-20 over is a waste of time, but it probably makes their quota a lot easier to achieve and the province a lot of cash.
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Why don't people invest in radar jammer and/or detector?

I haven't got one ticket since getting one 4 years ago or so, and has paid for itself MANY times.

Also I agree with 4X4, they could pick their spots better. I'd prefer to see them in mainly school zones where little kids could be hurt, or in construction zones where people could get injured for someones speeding. Hanging out on Deerfoot and getting people for going 10-20 over is a waste of time, but it probably makes their quota a lot easier to achieve and the province a lot of cash.
Since the vast majority of police services uses lasers, I am not sure what a radar jammer/detector is going to do for you. Laser detectors do work. The problem is, in order for them to actually detect the laser, the laser has to hit them which is quite unlikely.

Doesn't all traffic enforcement have a desired outcome regardless of where it is?
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Old 02-23-2009, 08:23 AM   #23
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I'm under the impression that a traffic ticket is you being charged with an offense, and you are innocent until proven guilty. What kind of system do you guys think we have? Have you ever gotten a ticket? Aren't you being charged with breaking the law when you get one? That means charged, not necessarily guilty!!!!

That means that you should go talk about the ticket, fight it if you can. In our legal system, if people can get off with murder, you should be able to get your gf off of a traffic ticket.
It doesn't mean you are innocent until proven guilty. It means the system will treat you as if you are innocent until proven guilty. I think there is a big difference in that wording. If you are guilty, YOU are guilty. You will just be treated as though you are innocent until it is proven that you are guilty. If the OP wants to talk to the prosecutor and see if he will reduce the fine, go for it. He may or may not get a break, at least he is not tieing up the system trying to argue some stupid point why he should not be charged for speeding when he in fact was/or is GF in this case.
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Whatever. I'll pay the damn ticket. I just think it's pretty goofy that they've got dorks set up, hiding behind sandwich boards and lamp posts clocking people that are driving the road. Go and hang out in a construction zone (with actual workers persent, please?). Go and gaurd some of the intersections that have high collision rates. School zones. Playground zones (even my nemesis playground zone)... Just do something useful. You're not doing a damn thing to increase safety by lurking around spots where there's a hill and no lights for 100 meters. You're fricken fishing. It's BS.
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I know of only 2 fishing holes on my normal route.

1, up Centre Street, goign up the hill north of downtown, they will often have officrs with speed guns in the middle of the hill, with 2 or 3 cars pulling people over on the first right.

Second, is 16th Ave west, from Deerfoot. Same sort of scenario, its by the mobile home park.

Sorry to derail. no idea if you can go in her stead.
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You can have an agent. Can be friend or a hired agent like a traffice ticket firm or a lawyer.

See the booklet linked. Good luck. Have a story about your wife staying home with the kid or you are likely hooped. A better plan may be to go with her and take care of the kid while she talks to the first appearance person. Good luck.
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Ya, Laser detectors are virtually useless until its too late. Only time it'll be useful if they're tagging someone else and your car catches a portion of the beam.
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Ya, Laser detectors are virtually useless until its too late. Only time it'll be useful if they're tagging someone else and your car catches a portion of the beam.
A buddy of mine uses this product along with a LD and swears by it, he says he gets weird looks from the cops when he finally goes by them.

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So I went by myself this morning and requested to speak to the JP. The lady at the wicket told me to step aside while she made a phone call. I figure there was a miscommunication that she might've thought I was trying to pretend to be her. When she was done her phonecall, she took the next person in line.

Now, I have no idea what the phonecall was about or why I am standing on my own line. She calls me back after talking to him and advises me that she is quashing the ticket because there was an error. I had no idea what the error was so I asked her. Even though the cop but the month and the year correctly, he failed to provide the day. So we got the demerits decreased from three to zero and the fine from $156 to $0. Not a bad morning!

The cop does have 60 days to reissue a new ticket though so we're hoping he doesn't choose to do that

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So I went by myself this morning and requested to speak to the JP. The lady at the wicket told me to step aside while she made a phone call. I figure there was a miscommunication that she might've thought I was trying to pretend to be her. When she was done her phonecall, she took the next person in line.

Now, I have no idea what the phonecall was about or why I am standing on my own line. She calls me back after talking to him and advises me that she is quashing the ticket because there was an error. I had no idea what the error was so I asked her. Even though the cop but the month and the year correctly, he failed to provide the day. So we got the demerits decreased from three to two and the fine from $156 to $0. Not a bad morning!

The cop does have 60 days to reissue a new ticket though so we're hoping he doesn't choose to do that
They quashed the ticket but still gave demerits? That is weird. I have had a ticket thrown out before because of a written error and the entire ticket was thrown out.
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They quashed the ticket but still gave demerits? That is weird. I have had a ticket thrown out before because of a written error and the entire ticket was thrown out.
Sorry. Don't know what I was writing. Zero demerits, and zero fine
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It doesn't mean you are innocent until proven guilty. It means the system will treat you as if you are innocent until proven guilty. I think there is a big difference in that wording. If you are guilty, YOU are guilty. You will just be treated as though you are innocent until it is proven that you are guilty. If the OP wants to talk to the prosecutor and see if he will reduce the fine, go for it. He may or may not get a break, at least he is not tieing up the system trying to argue some stupid point why he should not be charged for speeding when he in fact was/or is GF in this case.
Some stupid point like the cop actually doing their job correctly? If the police don't do what is required to prove guilt there is absolutely nothing wrong with arguing deficiencies in the case.
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So I went by myself this morning and requested to speak to the JP. The lady at the wicket told me to step aside while she made a phone call. I figure there was a miscommunication that she might've thought I was trying to pretend to be her. When she was done her phonecall, she took the next person in line.

Now, I have no idea what the phonecall was about or why I am standing on my own line. She calls me back after talking to him and advises me that she is quashing the ticket because there was an error. I had no idea what the error was so I asked her. Even though the cop but the month and the year correctly, he failed to provide the day. So we got the demerits decreased from three to zero and the fine from $156 to $0. Not a bad morning!

The cop does have 60 days to reissue a new ticket though so we're hoping he doesn't choose to do that
Do you know what would have happened if you just paid the ticket by sending a cheque in the mail?

I had a ticket quashed once to and the only reason I knew that was that I was late paying the stupid thing and went down in person to pay it.
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Do you know what would have happened if you just paid the ticket by sending a cheque in the mail?

I had a ticket quashed once to and the only reason I knew that was that I was late paying the stupid thing and went down in person to pay it.
I think they would've just applied your "voluntary" payment to the ticket
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I think they would've just applied your "voluntary" payment to the ticket
Nope. They send it back. I had my cheque returned because the cop never submitted the BS ticket.

I guess I got through to him.
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So I went by myself this morning and requested to speak to the JP. The lady at the wicket told me to step aside while she made a phone call. I figure there was a miscommunication that she might've thought I was trying to pretend to be her. When she was done her phonecall, she took the next person in line.

Now, I have no idea what the phonecall was about or why I am standing on my own line. She calls me back after talking to him and advises me that she is quashing the ticket because there was an error. I had no idea what the error was so I asked her. Even though the cop but the month and the year correctly, he failed to provide the day. So we got the demerits decreased from three to zero and the fine from $156 to $0. Not a bad morning!

The cop does have 60 days to reissue a new ticket though so we're hoping he doesn't choose to do that

That's great to hear.
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That's great to hear.
Getting demerits is nothing to cheer about. I'd rather pay the fine.
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Getting demerits is nothing to cheer about. I'd rather pay the fine.
The demerits are waived as well.
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The demerits are waived as well.
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