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Old 01-16-2009, 10:41 PM   #21
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30 years later, the only name my mom calls my dad is still a**hole... Bitter much?
Are we related? That's hitting pretty close to home.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:19 PM   #22
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Does anyone have any experience with Fairway Divorce? I always thought this would be a good way to go. http://www.fairwaydivorce.com/
I don't know too much about it, but my associate had the following concerns:

1) it is expensive; a negotiated settlement with lawyers or collaborative family law can be less expensive in many cases.

2) the rough agreements they draft are poorly constructed, and lawyers have to end up fixing it - lawyers are still necessary to provide ILA - I don't know how many lawyers agree to look at fairway agreements?

3) I don't know what kind of insurance/regulation they have

4) you negotiate separate from your spouse - I think parents need to learn how to communicate together

5) business model focused on franchising

Generally, I support a non-adversarial approach to family law, but why not have a lawyer advising you at every step?

EDIT - the web-site seems very mis-leading about family lawyers - I don't think many family lawyers want to increase conflict so they can bill more hours. Most family lawyers I know never go to court, and only do collaborative.

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And fredr is a lawyer. Man, theres lots of lawyers on this board. I wonder how many billable hours per day evaporate into the ethereal ether of CP each day?

I'd guess none disappear... the real question might be how many billable hours some poor schmuck is paying so his/her lawyer can surf CP each day?
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This is the worst advice in the world if they have children together.

When parents try to win, children lose.
To some extent, I agree. If one of the parents is abusive, then I think you go all out. I wasn't talking about financial victory.
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To some extent, I agree. If one of the parents is abusive, then I think you go all out. I wasn't talking about financial victory.
Dood, there is no victory. Only regrouping and coping. Divorce sucks.
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Dood, there is no victory. Only regrouping and coping. Divorce sucks.
Jeez. Look, all I'm saying that, in my experience, which is not at all on the legal side, but on the family side, if you are the victim of an adulterous and abusive relationship, you need to be prepared for a long draining fight. That's all.

There are tangible victories that can be had in a long, prolonged divorce. Custody battles may be terrible on kids, I've seen this first hand, but sometimes they are better to be fought and won then allow some compromise where the child must be forced to spend time with a parent who doesn't deserve to be one.
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Jeez. Look, all I'm saying that, in my experience, which is not at all on the legal side, but on the family side, if you are the victim of an adulterous and abusive relationship, you need to be prepared for a long draining fight. That's all.

There are tangible victories that can be had in a long, prolonged divorce. Custody battles may be terrible on kids, I've seen this first hand, but sometimes they are better to be fought and won then allow some compromise where the child must be forced to spend time with a parent who doesn't deserve to be one.
If its that bad I'm sure kid would say he doesn't want to see Mommy/Daddy and that would be that. You can't force a kid to spend time with someone they don't want to.

But I get what you're saying.
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Old 01-17-2009, 12:01 PM   #28
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If its that bad I'm sure kid would say he doesn't want to see Mommy/Daddy and that would be that. You can't force a kid to spend time with someone they don't want to.

But I get what you're saying.
I can almost guarantee that it doesn't work like that all the time. An abusive parent has a bizarre effect on a young child. It's sick.
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