Does Sandro go to the NFL now?

[Ro]

I watched a total of about 30 minutes of CFL football this year, all yesterday, and only because I had money on the Stamps.

But I had heard about what a great kicker this guy is, and all was thinking when I saw him boot that last 50+ yarder with relative ease was:

See ya later CFL!

[Smoldering_Puckster]

Originally Posted by Jason14h

50+ FG's are not easy. Most kickers won't even attempt

To put it in perspective, Vinateri is probably regarded as the most clutch, and perhaps best kicker in NFL history. He hit a 51 yarded to win the game last night.

In his career, he was 9/20 from FG's of greater then 50 yards. (At least thats the stat that came up on TSN before the kick)

They showed a stat on the colts v. Chargers game last night that Vinitierri (SP?) was 10 for 21 in his career on kicks of 50 yards or longer.

50 yarders are not routine in any league.

[SebC]

Originally Posted by Smoldering_Puckster

They showed a stat on the colts v. Chargers game last night that Vinitierri (SP?) was 10 for 21 in his career on kicks of 50 yards or longer.

50 yarders are not routine in any league.

Isn't a 50 yarder in the NFL different from a 50 yarder in the CFL because the goalpoasts are at the back of the endzone? Or is that already accounted for?

[LockedOut]

Originally Posted by SebC

Isn't a 50 yarder in the NFL different from a 50 yarder in the CFL because the goalpoasts are at the back of the endzone? Or is that already accounted for?

Yes it's accounted for. A 50 yarder in the NFL will have the ball snapped at approximately the 34-35 yard line.

[Madman]

During the QR77 pregame show, Jim Barker was on and discussing Brandon Browner. He mentioned that the Stamps made a very generous offer to Browner but didn't keep it a secret that he would be testing the NFL and would go if the right situation came along.

Nothing earth shattering.

The one bomb Jim Barker did drop after the Browner talk was that Sandro would also be testing the NFL route out. I was very surprised to hear that as there was really no hint of this before, (like there was with Browner), but in the same tone I am not surprised at all.

[corporatejay]

Originally Posted by Smoldering_Puckster

They showed a stat on the colts v. Chargers game last night that Vinitierri (SP?) was 10 for 21 in his career on kicks of 50 yards or longer.

50 yarders are not routine in any league.

Okay, I'm convinced, I didn't do the research, it just seems like something I see as "routine" in the NFL, but really isn't. That makes yesterday's kick all that more impressive.

[killer_carlson]

what would be interesting would be in an NFL kicker on a playoff team went down between now and the end of the year and whether Sandro would get a look or not.

[calf]

http://blog.canoe.ca/therouge

More/Less confirmed he's going to take a shot at the NFL

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by LockedOut

Yes it's accounted for. A 50 yarder in the NFL will have the ball snapped at approximately the 34-35 yard line.

not to be nitpicky, but a 50 yarder in the NFL would mean the line of scrimmage is the 32. In the CFL, it would mean the line of scrimmage is the 42.

The holder almost always lines up about 8 yards behind the line of scrimmage, never less then 7 I don't think.

So, for the NFL, 50 yards = the 32 yards from the line of scrimmage to the end zone, the ten yards the uprights are behind the touchdown line, and the 8 yards the kicker lines up behind the line of scrimmage.

Weird quirk: FG kickers get credited for the yards behind the line of scrimmage that they kick from, but punters do not.

[soulchoice]

He would be a fool not to try his skill in the best Football league in the world. If he truly is the competitor that he seems to be, he will certainly go. Not just for the salary.

[calgaryrocks]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

He would be a fool not to try his skill in the best Football league in the world. If he truly is the competitor that he seems to be, he will certainly go. Not just for the salary.

...i dont agree with best football league in the world...that depends on who is talking because it can't be measured. i would prefer to watch cfl football anyday (i know that doesnt make it the best). the nfl is obviously more hyped and american fans are way more intense about football than we are. being the highest paid football league, they must be talented players no doubt. the only reason i would go to the nfl if i was in his situation is the money. he is a star here and has won a championship, if he goes to the nfl for 4 years he gets a pension and enough to retire on. the money and the challenge of winning a championship in both leagues.

but i do agree that he certainly would go, as he is a competitor and wants to be the best.

[cSpooge]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

not to be nitpicky, but a 50 yarder in the NFL would mean the line of scrimmage is the 32. In the CFL, it would mean the line of scrimmage is the 42.

The holder almost always lines up about 8 yards behind the line of scrimmage, never less then 7 I don't think.

So, for the NFL, 50 yards = the 32 yards from the line of scrimmage to the end zone, the ten yards the uprights are behind the touchdown line, and the 8 yards the kicker lines up behind the line of scrimmage.

Weird quirk: FG kickers get credited for the yards behind the line of scrimmage that they kick from, but punters do not.

every kicker lines up 7 yards back from the LOS any more and the snap takes too long to get back.

[flip]

Doesn't the NFL not use a tee on field goals as well?

2. A one-inch tee may be used (no tee permitted for field goal, safety kick, or try attempt) on a kickoff. The ball is put in play by a placekick.

Got that from here:

http://www.supernfl.com/NFLRules.html

CFL does use a tee. It makes field goals much easier. (which BTW Paul McCallum, as a Rider, has the CFL recored with a 62yd field goal against EDM)

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by cSpooge

every kicker lines up 7 yards back from the LOS any more and the snap takes too long to get back.

Actually, almost all the time these days, it's 8 yards. For example if the line of scrimmage is the 30, the holder will line up at the 38. 5 years ago, they were more likely to line up the holder at the 37.

[Bobblehead]

I wonder if Sandro ever speaks with Gary Anderson? He (Anderson) is still running the fly fishing operation in Canmore, isn't he?

[Cowboy89]

Originally Posted by calgaryrocks

...i dont agree with best football league in the world...that depends on who is talking because it can't be measured. i would prefer to watch cfl football anyday (i know that doesnt make it the best). the nfl is obviously more hyped and american fans are way more intense about football than we are. being the highest paid football league, they must be talented players no doubt. the only reason i would go to the nfl if i was in his situation is the money. he is a star here and has won a championship, if he goes to the nfl for 4 years he gets a pension and enough to retire on. the money and the challenge of winning a championship in both leagues.

but i do agree that he certainly would go, as he is a competitor and wants to be the best.

Sure, entertainment value might be something that can't be measured very well as each fan likes different things, but from a talent and skill level it's no contest between the NFL and CFL.

Sure the CFL has it's quirks in which sometimes an oversized linebacker in the NFL wouldn't be able to play in the CFL because the field is too wide and passing too prevalent for him to make the same impact as a smaller, faster player. However outside of a few exceptions like that, if you replaced the Stamps roster entirely with the roster of the 0-11 Detroit Lions, the Stamps would be better at each and every position. With the exception of maybe the Kicker. Even if Browner makes it with an NFL team, it's going to be as the 4th or 5th corner only really getting on the turf for special teams and the dime package (And he's pretty much the dominant corner in the CFL). I am a Stamps season ticket holder and a NFL Sunday Ticket subscriber and hands down the NFL is more quality football. There's something to be said for watching the absolute best in the world play.

[OzSome]

I just love watching Sandro kicked the field goal and Browner playing tight defense and so on BUT the NFL always have the politics. I am sure politics aside both Sandro and Browner will be able to sign with any NFL team and stick with that team. The problem is NFL still thinks College football is better than the CFL therefore whatever a player did in the CFL might not matter to them. Teams might have a look and see on Sandro, Browner and even BC Lions Cameron Wake and if they make it, they won't be a starter and might be let go a few weeks after the season starts. Good for those 2 to try and I wish them all the luck. Remember Sandro and Browner, you are always welcome back to the Stamps.

[corporatejay]

Agree, and like you said you can't value entertainment. Many people in the US/Canada feel that College Football is the most entertaining sport, but as far as talent goes, the NCAAF is below the CFL.

Comparing the NFL to the CFL is like comparing the NHL to any of the elite european leagues (KHL, Swedish Elite) While I'm sure people living in Russia or Sweden think that their hockey is the best and live and die by their team, the NHL is where the best players in the world play.

[howard_the_duck]

Originally Posted by corporatejay

Agree, and like you said you can't value entertainment. Many people in the US/Canada feel that College Football is the most entertaining sport, but as far as talent goes, the NCAAF is below the CFL.

Comparing the NFL to the CFL is like comparing the NHL to any of the elite european leagues (KHL, Swedish Elite) While I'm sure people living in Russia or Sweden think that their hockey is the best and live and die by their team, the NHL is where the best players in the world play.

I don't even think it's that close. If an NHL team were to play against a SEL team or KHL team in a one game trial thing, it may be a close score.....within a couple goals.

Could you imagine, say, Brandon Jacobs running against CFL linebackers/defensive linemen? Not to mention the massive size difference in offensive and defensive lines. You rarely see missed tackles in the NFL. I love the CFL as much as the next guy, but it'd be a slaughterfest if you stacked 2 teams from their respective leagues against each other.....in the NFL's favor.

[calgaryrocks]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

I don't even think it's that close. If an NHL team were to play against a SEL team or KHL team in a one game trial thing, it may be a close score.....within a couple goals.

Could you imagine, say, Brandon Jacobs running against CFL linebackers/defensive linemen? Not to mention the massive size difference in offensive and defensive lines. You rarely see missed tackles in the NFL. I love the CFL as much as the next guy, but it'd be a slaughterfest if you stacked 2 teams from their respective leagues against each other.....in the NFL's favor.

well, i think its closer than you think, but thats just my opinion. i mean, as far as talent goes nfl>cfl>ncaaf>cis etc. but they are different leagues requiring different players.
if the two leagues were to have a game, under cfl rules it would be close but the nfl team would probably pull it out as they get used to the rules. under hte nfl rules, yea it wouldnt be pretty.
there are many talented guys in the cfl who never got a chance in the nfl (or havent tried). i agree that the tackling would likely be the biggest difference. an nfl guy like brandon jacobs would be pretty good in the cfl, but an average qb would be lost for the first few games in the cfl.
but as i said before, we shouldnt really compare the two, they are both entertaining but different brands of football, with the nfl holding an advantage in talent obviously.