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Old 11-07-2008, 01:25 AM   #21
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OK, but your original post doesn't address that at all.
My post was directed at that point, what he doesn't say obviously, is however clear in his sentiment that he fears socialism, which you may notice is commonly felt amongst republicans and many americans alike.

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Instead, you take a shot at American ignorance (that's a new one) and tout the greatness of European countries that are run under a model of democratic socialism.
Thats reading a lot into my comment, I am only suggesting what is commonly agreed by blue/red proponents alike, socialism is a dirty word and its something a great number fear. I am however suggesting that view/belief is distorted and while America need not adopt fully socialist ideals, they can and should learn from countries that do some things better.

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Do you really think that's a valid comparison?
Yes, there are some massive flaws in America, 2 being health care and education. Not to mention infant mortality rates, worldwide mediocre scores in education, and a massively unbalanced rich to middle class/poor.

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There are people in this country who have more kids to get more free money. It's stupid and counter productive, but that's the way it goes. I think Nicker's post was more geared toward that then "I'm afraid of socialism".
There are people that do this in all countries. There are people in all countries that commit crime, yet we house and pay for their prosecution, policing, etc.. Its part of the social contract. But its a minority, and while every nation has these people, the majority are what we care about.

We are becoming more Dependant on the overall success of all people around us, not just our nation but others. The xenophobic ideals, or ideals that is based upon greed is great or ignoring the tens of millions of people without health care DOES impact your life. You just don't realize the impact, long as you don't have to declare bankruptcy over health bills.
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Old 11-07-2008, 01:32 AM   #22
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Wow.

How do I totally lose you in one post? Must be bedtime. Clearly I am not doing my best communicating at this point.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:15 AM   #23
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I don't think Obama has much room financially to put in place his so-called socialist policies.

I am looking forward to a more friendly foreign policy from the US.
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:34 AM   #24
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I don't think Obama has much room financially to put in place his so-called socialist policies.

I am looking forward to a more friendly foreign policy from the US.
To... North Korea and Iran?
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Old 11-07-2008, 08:38 AM   #25
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I would just like to point out that the original post was satirical and you are all waayyyyyy to serious.
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Old 11-07-2008, 09:08 AM   #26
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How could this thread exist without the Italian Prime Minister's reaction?

Silvio Berlusconi, the Italian prime minister, offered his own particular form of praise today for America's president-elect Barack Obama, describing him as "young, handsome and tanned.''

The Guardian
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