More neighbour issues

[ok, ok,....I get it]

This is a job for the Flaming Bag of Poo!

[8 Ball]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

I just had a chat with the contractor and the neighbour. She apologized, but the contractor said, "I wouldn't still be here, if I was you"

So while I am satisfied with the neighbour's response, I am more than a little PO'ed at the contractor.

Is this guy the owner of the company or an employee? If he is an employee phone his superior, there is no reason to cause the company grief if they don't know one of thier employees is being an unprofessional twit and they would probably want to know about it. If he does own the company phoning the BBB won't do any good unless he is a member.

[You Need a Thneed]

Originally Posted by Rathji

BBB is a good bet. I would be involving every possible rule of law against the contractor though.

Does he has a trailer parked on the street that is not connected to a truck? Instant ticket right there.

Is there a trailer that is connected imporperly? Need 2 safety chains and a emergency brake cable all fastened to the truck seperately.

Does he have any materials in the street? Gravel etc are not allowed to be on the street without a street use permit from the city. Almost no one gets them due to hassle and cost especially for a short job.

Are his trucks commerically licenced? He have his Tare, GVW and company name on his doors? Does his truck look overloaded according to that weight?

Is there a road ban access to your house that he almost certianly had to cross to get to your house. a 50% road ban prevents alot of vehicles from travelling under any real load.

Are the loads on his trucks secure and no longer than the end of his box/deck? Are they flagged if not?

Do his tires look under inflated or thin on tread?

His headlights broken?

Is his deck/box wider than standard width? If so does it have clearance lights on both sides?

If you could somehow convince DOT, City Bylaw or a cop to come pay him a visit, he could face large fines.

I know this stuff seems petty, but I move wide/long loads for a living now and we need to be 100% on all this stuff all the time or we get nailed. I am sure with some complaints DOT will gladly come and issue some tickets. Especially since most of the stuff I listed are safety violations, which are very important when dealing with comercial vehicles.

add to that, is he washing off concrete into storm drains? That's illegal too. If by chance your neighbor is getting the acid etched concrete, if any of that acid goes off site, that's illegal too.

But tell the contractor that he's not allowed on your property, when he trys to retreive his power cord, tell him that the ban includes going to retrieve his power cord.

Before you do anything to be an ass, do you know exactly where your property line is? They are never right at the curb/sidewalk - minimum 1 foot way and can be as much as six feet from the curb/sidewalk. Is the mud/other stuff only in that area? I guess plugging their cord into your plug in is definately on your property.

[Traditional_Ale]

I loan you my Mackie front of house powered speakers. They're good to about 600 people outside. Then you can blast them all day from a playlist compromised of nothing but Madonna and the Backstreet Boys. I can even loan you a DB meter, so you have have it absolutely as loud as legally possible (which believe me, is actually very very loud...).

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by 8 Ball

Is this guy the owner of the company or an employee? If he is an employee phone his superior, there is no reason to cause the company grief if they don't know one of thier employees is being an unprofessional twit and they would probably want to know about it. If he does own the company phoning the BBB won't do any good unless he is a member.

If you have a complaint filed with the BBB against you then doesn't matter if you are a member anyone who checks on your comapny will see that there was a dispute, but I don't think they will be able to see what the dispute was.

I know we had one filed against us once because the lady who signed the contract didn't realize it was a contract and was upset when we asked for payment because she still wanted to haggle over nothing just to reduce her price. BBB pretty much threw it out right away. So maybe it was because of it being thrown out that no one can view details. I am not sure.

[4X4]

Originally Posted by You Need a Thneed

add to that, is he washing off concrete into storm drains? That's illegal too. If by chance your neighbor is getting the acid etched concrete, if any of that acid goes off site, that's illegal too.

But tell the contractor that he's not allowed on your property, when he trys to retreive his power cord, tell him that the ban includes going to retrieve his power cord.

Before you do anything to be an ass, do you know exactly where your property line is? They are never right at the curb/sidewalk - minimum 1 foot way and can be as much as six feet from the curb/sidewalk. Is the mud/other stuff only in that area? I guess plugging their cord into your plug in is definately on your property.

Man, this kind of stuff is only going to make the guy more of a jerk. This is akin to telling the schoolyard bully that you're going to tell your mom when you get home.

If you're dealing with this kind of a ######bag, your options are pretty limited. You can either punch the guy in the face, or else just kill your outside power and fix your lawn next spring.
Getting into a war with some knuckle-dragging freak is only going to net you some broken windows and other forms of grief. Afterall, he knows where you live.
Forget the contractor.

As for your neighbour, options are limited there, too. What are you going to do? Build a fence? If the guy is a total assface, you either suck it up or move. I mean, the only way to get even is to pour salt on his lawn or something. Calling the cops will only instigate a war.
The idea of calling in a 'tip' to CRA is kinda funny. That's some well deserved karma for the contractor... But short of that, there's not much you can do without making the situation worse. If the neighbour and the contractor are as oblivious (read: assholish) as you say, making a big deal out of it just gets you in deeper.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Man, this kind of stuff is only going to make the guy more of a jerk. This is akin to telling the schoolyard bully that you're going to tell your mom when you get home.

If you're dealing with this kind of a ######bag, your options are pretty limited. You can either punch the guy in the face, or else just kill your outside power and fix your lawn next spring.
Getting into a war with some knuckle-dragging freak is only going to net you some broken windows and other forms of grief. Afterall, he knows where you live.
Forget the contractor.

As for your neighbour, options are limited there, too. What are you going to do? Build a fence? If the guy is a total assface, you either suck it up or move. I mean, the only way to get even is to pour salt on his lawn or something. Calling the cops will only instigate a war.
The idea of calling in a 'tip' to CRA is kinda funny. That's some well deserved karma for the contractor... But short of that, there's not much you can do without making the situation worse. If the neighbour and the contractor are as oblivious (read: assholish) as you say, making a big deal out of it just gets you in deeper.

Best advice so far. I remember the fella that replaced our windows in Calgary telling me a story about a neighbour that was p'ing him off on a job. He finished the job, waited a couple of weeks, returned at night and put insulating foam up the exhaust of both his cars.

You could also write and date another neighbour's name you can't stand in the wet cement.

[Jayems]

When I used to work outside all the time, we'd do some work for my bosses cousin, who owns a large landscape company in town. On this particular day, we were checking out the site. His cousin was building some sort of rock wall made of huge boulders underground to prevent the banks of this guys property from falling into the Elbow. Anyway, money was major, (he paid for a brand new $70,000 Cat front digger thinggy in cash with only some of the deposit money)

Anyhoo, there was a neighbour to this house who used to be an ex-alderman or some sort of local politician or councilman. He would spend 8 hours a day sitting on his deck with binoculars and a telephone. As soon as he saw something 'suspicious' he'd call some enforcement agency. Bosses cousin had work stopped about 4 times and couldn't continue before he could prove to bylaw or whomever that it was all legit. Neighbour was a total D-bag.

For the entire job, this guy made his life miserable for no reason other than he was a busybody.

[The Fonz]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I remember the fella that replaced our windows in Calgary telling me a story about a neighbour that was p'ing him off on a job. He finished the job, waited a couple of weeks, returned at night and put insulating foam up the exhaust of both his cars.

He tried to kill him? And put other drivers lives at risk?

That guy needs to get help.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

nm

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Man, this kind of stuff is only going to make the guy more of a jerk. This is akin to telling the schoolyard bully that you're going to tell your mom when you get home.

But isn't just taking it akin to not standing up to that schoolyard bully?

Maybe just forgetting about it is the smart way to go, but someone who acts like this does need to learn a lesson one way or another. This "contractor" is using someone's property and electricity illegally to do his business and he's topped it off with a threat when challenged on it.

It doesn't seem to me like a situation in which the victim should just throw up his hands.

[ken0042]

I also like the idea of calling the CRA. It's the craftiest idea out there.

Calling the city regarding permits- well unless the guy is doing structural concrete work there is no permit required.

"Evil Ken's" suggestion is to find a way to rig that outlet with 240 volts of power so that the contractor burns out some of his tools, but that not only has the chance of backfiring on you, it could also escallate the issue.

[Bagor]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

He tried to kill him? And put other drivers lives at risk?

That guy needs to get help.

I asked him what would have happened. He seemed to think that he'd blow a hole in the exhausts.

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Maybe just forgetting about it is the smart way to go, but someone who acts like this does need to learn a lesson one way or another. This "contractor" is using someone's property and electricity illegally to do his business and he's topped it off with a threat when challenged on it.

It doesn't seem to me like a situation in which the victim should just throw up his hands.

It doesn't but you've got to pick your battles. There's nothing to be gained by the OP from escalating it further over a bit of grass and hydro. Unless he does it in a way the contractor can't tie it to him. He'll get his comeuppance down the road.

[ok, ok,....I get it]

Originally Posted by Bagor

I asked him what would have happened. He seemed to think that he'd blow a hole in the exhausts.



It doesn't but you've got to pick your battles. There's nothing to be gained by the OP from escalating it further over a bit of grass and hydro. Unless he does it in a way the contractor can't tie it to him. He'll get his comeuppance down the road.

Was his name Axel Foley?

[troutman]

What if your neighbour was a cop, like Samuel L. Jackson?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/1000...eview_terrace/

[troutman]

Originally Posted by 4X4

your options are pretty limited. You can either punch the guy in the face, or else just kill your outside power and fix your lawn next spring.

The 4X4 philosophy.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by troutman

The 4X4 philosophy.

That or drink beer with him on your lawn listening to Lightfoot's greatest hits on loop adnauseum.....

[jolinar of malkshor]

When can I pick up the extension cord?

[metal_geek]

It's just some grass, as much as it sucks, the golden rule might apply here more then anything else...

Just because your neighbour is a ######.. doesn't mean it makes anything better if you are...

That being said, I moved one time because my neighbours were brutal, and now I drink with my neighbours on a regular basis

[Nancy]

Originally Posted by ken0042

I also like the idea of calling the CRA. It's the craftiest idea out there.

Calling the city regarding permits- well unless the guy is doing structural concrete work there is no permit required.

"Evil Ken's" suggestion is to find a way to rig that outlet with 240 volts of power so that the contractor burns out some of his tools, but that not only has the chance of backfiring on you, it could also escallate the issue.

Actually, I'm pretty sure stairs would qualify as a structural component, and if they are more than 60cm high, would require a permit.

I don't think most of these orgnizations (CRA, city, etc.) will be likely to take much interest in the matter. If you were to be able to get anyone interested, it would be the WCB... odds are he's not paying WCB.