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Old 10-18-2013, 11:05 AM   #21
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i'm interested in learning more about the dairy opposition to this as it all seems to be potentially a major winner deal for them in the long term.
I heard that they're scared for the artisan cheese industry in Quebec, which confuses me cos if you look at the craft cheeses sold in supermarkets here, they seem to be made in 2 massive factories in Longeuil and Laval (opposite Quebec City).

Plus its gotta be great news for the Albertan Beef industry, last I read the beef quota had been increased to make it more economical for a chunk of farms/feedlots here to convert over to higher quality production (basically no hormones I believe) - in the long run this could all drive the quality of our steak up!
The diary opposition probably has to do with the fact that the supply management system and their guaranteed profits are probably going to take a hit. Had a long debate on here in a different thread about that topic and I was convinced that supply management isn't the way to go, even if the quality might take a hit. And the quality of Canadian Dairy is usually top notch.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:16 PM   #22
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Canada certainly exports a lot of its cheddar over to the EU already so growth there could only help them right?
I have to keep rereading supply management to get my head around it sometimes!

Crazy how a mature Canadian cheddar is cheaper in Britain than in Canada lol.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:23 PM   #23
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I'm not sure how it would affect prices, but I find the dairy in this country to be extremely expensive... everything from milk to cheese. And honestly, the selection compared to anything in Europe, is pretty dismal. Hopefully this allows us to get better access to quality cheese, at better prices.
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The main piece of information I get from this thread is that CP loves their cars and cheeses.
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Canada certainly exports a lot of its cheddar over to the EU already so growth there could only help them right?
I have to keep rereading supply management to get my head around it sometimes!

Crazy how a mature Canadian cheddar is cheaper in Britain than in Canada lol.
Supply chain is the most interesting aspect of business... imo of course

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Old 10-18-2013, 01:00 PM   #26
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Yep.

I'm not saying we'll get all the savings (we won't), but removing a 6.1% tarif is bound to have some effect on prices. A company likes VW is increasingly more about Volume these days...and the more cars they can push out the better for their bottom line. Look how many more Jettas and Passats VW has sold the last couple of years by de-contenting their cars and chopping the price. If they can drop it even further, and sell another 10-15%, it will be worth it to them.

Even a luxury maker like BMW is pushing for volume. You might not get a discount on that 7-series...but if decreasing the price a bit gets more butts into a 1 or 2 Series, you bet they'll do it. Because they know that once you buy that 1 series, chances are you'll come back to upgrade at some point.

And further, car companies don't just make money the day you buy a car...they make money off the financing/leasing and long-term ownership as well. Buying the car itself is just the beginning of a (hopefully) long term relationship....and while they might give you a price drop on the car itself, they sure won't give you a discount on that 300% mark-up Johnson Rod that needs to be replaced when you come in for service.
Yeah, I don't agree. I think we'll see no savings and VW is not the best example because a large portion of the cars that hit the NA market under the VW brand umbrella are made in Mexico. The jobs will go to where the labor is cheaper and we either get better prices or corporations with larger profits. I'm betting it's the latter. In the long run, these aren't in our best interests, but I guess it's better that it's the EU and not more in China.
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The main piece of information I get from this thread is that CP loves their cars and cheeses.
This what makes the whole thing worth it for me. Don't forget the wine and beer.
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