09-16-2008, 09:20 PM
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#21
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Calgary, AB
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Given your situation and what everyone is saying, I would give 4 weeks notice if you are willing to take the chance of working there for another month. This way, if they ask you to leave immediately, they have to give you four weeks pay.
I've been tempted to do what you are doing on a number of occasions. It is probably a good move for you.
If you have a good relationship with your supervisor, I would absolutely state the reason why you left. Otherwise, I would consider leaving it for an exit interview and/or a discussion with someone from HR.
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09-16-2008, 09:57 PM
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#22
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Playboy Mansion Poolboy
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Close enough to make a beer run during a TV timeout
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Originally Posted by jtfrogger
Given your situation and what everyone is saying, I would give 4 weeks notice if you are willing to take the chance of working there for another month. This way, if they ask you to leave immediately, they have to give you four weeks pay.
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I was just going to post the same thing. If you think they will let you go right away, give more notice. The risk is you may have to work that length of time.
And I know in some companies; if you tell them you are leaving to go work for a competitor you will be pretty much just walked out the door.
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09-16-2008, 10:14 PM
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#23
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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If I was hired Dec 16th, 2004 that would technically be 3 years in this type of case?
So I should give 3 weeks notice? And they would owe me for all 3 weeks if I was "fired" that day?
Also thanks for everyone's help on this.
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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09-16-2008, 10:19 PM
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#24
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: The Dome
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Originally Posted by HOOT
What happens with my company matched RRSPs?
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Most RRSP's with employer matched contributions, you have to be vested for a period of time before you can "keep" the employers contribution. That doesn't mean when you started working, but when you entered the plan.
The amount of time varies... some places from 1 year, others 4 years.
If you have been in the plan since you first started (4 years).. you are probably ok.. but I would still try to find out.. either from your companys website (if they have one), or if you get a statement for the RRSP.. check with the company that is holding the RRSP.
Last resort.. ask a benefit adminstrator in your HR dept... just be careful how you go about asking.
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09-16-2008, 10:42 PM
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#25
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Torture
If you want to tell them then there's really no reason not to, might help them change things to make it better for those still working there. If I was in their position I would likely want to know.
And just a small thing...it's employment law, not labour law....labour law deals with Unions. (Yup I'm being nitpicky but I'm an HR major so that's what I'm here for)
Here's the BC Employment Standards site. They should have a phone number to call with any questions that the website doesn't answer as well.
http://www.labour.gov.bc.ca/esb/
Read section 63 on how many weeks you're entitled to.
So sounds like...4 weeks severence?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackArcher101
If you read on, it states this:
(3) The liability is deemed to be discharged if the employee
(a) is given written notice of termination as follows:
(i) one week's notice after 3 consecutive months of employment;
(ii) 2 weeks' notice after 12 consecutive months of employment;
(iii) 3 weeks' notice after 3 consecutive years of employment, plus one additional week for each additional year of employment, to a maximum of 8 weeks' notice;
(b) is given a combination of written notice under subsection (3) (a) and money equivalent to the amount the employer is liable to pay, or
(c) terminates the employment, retires from employment, or is dismissed for just cause.
To me it reads as if the employee gives notice, then the employer is not liable for the payment schedule in Section 6 (2).
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Please note that my experience is based on Alberta law only. While the concepts are generally the same in BC as they are in Alberta, the specific numbers may be slightly different between the two provinces.
Employment standards legislation sets out the minimum terms of your employment. The legislation may or may not apply to your industry (for example, in Alberta the employment standards legislation does not apply to lawyers) or it may specify minimum standards different from the rest of the workers out there (for instance, farm workers are treated differently in Alberta than most other workers). Both the Alberta and the BC acts specify how much notice of termination an employer must give an employee and it normally depends on the length of service with that employer. Note that this is the minimum notice and there are a variety of factors that, at common law, may serve to increase the notice period.
An employer can terminate an employee for any (or no) reason whatsoever provided the employer provides reasonable notice of the termination (or payment in lieu). This means that they can either say "you are terminated as of four weeks from now" or, the more likely scenario, "Here's four weeks pay, take a hike." In the latter situation, the pay is often termed severance pay.
If you resign voluntarily, the employer is not obligated to pay severance. You are normally obligated to provide notice of your resignation and this is often the two weeks notice we hear about so often. This period can be longer or shorter depending on a variety of factors. If you do not provide adequate notice of your resignation, your employer can turn to the courts to get compensation from you for any damages they suffer as a result of not getting sufficient notice. This has happened in the past but is relatively rare.
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09-16-2008, 11:01 PM
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#26
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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So to be safe I should just call the Employment board and ask what my requirements are and what my employers requirements are if I follow everything.
Thank you for everyone's help on this, its really tough leaving somewhere of comfort. As much as I hate my job I am good at it. I have sold almost 300% more product than the next closest person, its going to be weird selling the competition or changing career paths.
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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09-19-2008, 09:14 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
Join Date: May 2006
Location: @HOOT250
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Well today is the day! I am more excited than nervous which proves to me this is the right choice.
Already had two job offers from the competition so I will get back to them after my little vacation! WOOT WOOT!!
Thanks for everyone's help on this matter.
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Originally Posted by henriksedin33
Not at all, as I've said, I would rather start with LA over any of the other WC playoff teams. Bunch of underachievers who look good on paper but don't even deserve to be in the playoffs.
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09-19-2008, 09:17 AM
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#28
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Uncle Chester
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Good luck man
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09-19-2008, 09:33 AM
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#29
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Unfrozen Caveman Lawyer
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Crowsnest Pass
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SportsJunky
. I actually just signed a deal to go back to work with a company in a completely unrelated industry this afternoon and can't wait.
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Professional softball player? Congratulations. I hope you don't forget all the little people.
Last edited by troutman; 09-19-2008 at 09:41 AM.
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09-19-2008, 09:40 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
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Company-matched RRSPs should have no limitations. You should be able to transfer them elsewhere (such as Slava  ) or use them for any purpose for which an RRSP can be used. I have group RRSPs and tried to put restrictions on one of them to prevent employees from using them as a savings account and cashing them in needlessly, but was unable to do so.
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