09-12-2008, 10:06 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: In my office, at the Ministry of Awesome!
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Originally Posted by OBCT
I believe the main reason is because there are only a few huge oil companies that dominate the entire industry (Exxon-Mobil, Conoco, Shell, Chevron, BP, maybe a couple others). Most, if not all, of them are American-owned. These companies look at the big picture for their fuel distribution business, and make decisions based on that.
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Not quite:
There are 6 "Supermajor" Oil companies around and Half of them are American
Exxon-Mobil = American
Conoco = American
Chevron = American
BP = British Petroleum = British
Shell = Royal Dutch Shell = Dutch
Total = French
Of course in reality they're all multinational corporations and whether they're American, French, Brittsh, or Dutch is just a matter of where their head offices happen to be.
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09-12-2008, 10:09 AM
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#22
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Market Mall Food Court
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Did Petrocan ever get their gas? Everytime i drove by the one in richmond it was blocked off by yellow police tape.
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09-12-2008, 10:11 AM
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#23
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Your Mother's Place.
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Of course this happens on the day when I have to drive up to the city that soap forgot (Edmonton).
Curses.
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09-12-2008, 10:13 AM
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#24
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Thankfully, we have a diesel tank for our mobile equipment that I swipe gas from; I think I'm still under $1/litre right now.
ssshhhhhhh......
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09-12-2008, 10:18 AM
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#25
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Norm!
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Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
Thankfully, we have a diesel tank for our mobile equipment that I swipe gas from; I think I'm still under $1/litre right now.
ssshhhhhhh......
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Is it purple? 
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09-12-2008, 10:23 AM
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Is it purple? |
Nope. Commercial diesel that we buy from Esso.....
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09-12-2008, 10:23 AM
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#27
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Nufy
I'm starting to think that the price of gas is linked to Oil prices only when the Oil companies want it to.
I'm sure there are market factors and stuff affecting it but for the average schmoe who see's gas go up with the price of Oil and then no change when it drops, you have to think something is up.
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That's exactly what it is. When prices go up and people complain, there is some news story quoting some Economist or Strategist that the rise is fuel prices is directly related to the price of oil rising that very same day.
But...when oil prices drop and gar prices stay high, the same dick face Economist is back on the news stating that low oil prices take time to reflect back to the consumer - yeah, no shi!t!
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09-12-2008, 10:32 AM
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Such a pretty girl!
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by vanisleflamesfan
Of course this happens on the day when I have to drive up to the city that soap forgot (Edmonton).
Curses.
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Same here, except I'm leaving tomorrow 
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09-12-2008, 10:45 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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I just got a tank of diesel from the flying J for the same price as last week ($1.16). I dont think everywhere has raised prices yet..
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09-12-2008, 10:46 AM
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#30
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
Thankfully, we have a diesel tank for our mobile equipment that I swipe gas from; I think I'm still under $1/litre right now.
ssshhhhhhh......
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Knowing what you drive you better be careful. If its not ULSD you could do some damage. Especially with a fuel filter at 0% life. 
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09-12-2008, 11:34 AM
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#31
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch
Off to find Locke's car, got my garden hose and some breath mints for the gas taste.
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Amateur. All the pros know that you always use someone else's garden hoses to throw off the fuzz. I think Jolinar might have left his on his lawn....
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Originally Posted by 4X4
Premium is sour, regular is tangy and diesel tastes good...
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This explains so much. So much....
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09-12-2008, 11:43 AM
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Fearmongerer
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Wondering when # became hashtag and not a number sign.
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Just went and filled the second vehicle...prices had gone up another $.20 a gallon from this morning.
Gougers!!!!!
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09-12-2008, 11:54 AM
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#33
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Knowing what you drive you better be careful. If its not ULSD you could do some damage. Especially with a fuel filter at 0% life. |
Just changed my filter, so I think I'm OK. Apparently the one that was on there was finger tightened, which would explain the DTC code showing a problem with the fuel filter.
What's ULSD? I better check into that. Last thing I need is a blown engine not covered by warranty because I was cheaping out on fuel.
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09-12-2008, 12:11 PM
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#34
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Supporting Urban Sprawl
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
Just changed my filter, so I think I'm OK. Apparently the one that was on there was finger tightened, which would explain the DTC code showing a problem with the fuel filter.
What's ULSD? I better check into that. Last thing I need is a blown engine not covered by warranty because I was cheaping out on fuel.
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Low sulfur desiel, it is what you get from any normal desiel pump, as required by law. If you are getting your desiel from a 'non standard source' which is not intended for automobiles, then as I understand it the standards are a little lower.
This is just what I have heard.
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09-12-2008, 12:21 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philtopia
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Originally Posted by shane_c
I really don't understand any of this. We've been at $1.32/l for the last 3+ weeks despite the price of oil coming down quite a bit. Oil goes up, gas goes up. Oil comes down, gas stays the same or goes up. I'm tired of this crap.
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To put it simply - gas providers bought the gas thats selling today a week ago at 115 a barrell. Since the price has dropped they don't want to lower the price and cut into the profits. They have alreadybought the oil for a higher price then they could buy it for now. Funny thing is that when the opposite happens they don't hesitate to jack the prices immediately.
http://www.calgarygasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx
Based on this chart you can see that we should be paying far less then we are now (hurricane or not) based on the prices of 100-105 a barrell a few month ago. Maybe its just me but i'm getting tired of the whole blitz the consumer garbage.
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09-12-2008, 12:27 PM
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#36
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tron_fdc
Just changed my filter, so I think I'm OK. Apparently the one that was on there was finger tightened, which would explain the DTC code showing a problem with the fuel filter.
What's ULSD? I better check into that. Last thing I need is a blown engine not covered by warranty because I was cheaping out on fuel.
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Typically most diesel sold in Alberta is Ultra low Sulphur. I'd just be sure it wasnt from a super shady source. Also never run biodiesel because our common rail fuel injection systems can't tolerate the crappy quality of most biodiesel out there.
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09-12-2008, 12:29 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by flamesaresmokin
To put it simply - gas providers bought the gas thats selling today a week ago at 115 a barrell. Since the price has dropped they don't want to lower the price and cut into the profits. They have alreadybought the oil for a higher price then they could buy it for now. Funny thing is that when the opposite happens they don't hesitate to jack the prices immediately.
http://www.calgarygasprices.com/retail_price_chart.aspx
Based on this chart you can see that we should be paying far less then we are now (hurricane or not) based on the prices of 100-105 a barrell a few month ago. Maybe its just me but i'm getting tired of the whole blitz the consumer garbage. |
Oil sold on the commodity markets is for delivery a month down the road. The price shouldnt fluctuate that wildly. But I'll admit it seems to go up faster than down. Oil hit the record high in the 1st or 2nd week in July, so we should see our price trending downward continously over the next couple of months. This should happen so long as our dollar doesnt go in the toilet because energy stocks drop.
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09-12-2008, 12:40 PM
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Philtopia
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Oil sold on the commodity markets is for delivery a month down the road. The price shouldnt fluctuate that wildly. But I'll admit it seems to go up faster than down. Oil hit the record high in the 1st or 2nd week in July, so we should see our price trending downward continously over the next couple of months. This should happen so long as our dollar doesnt go in the toilet because energy stocks drop.
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True, but I don't buy the dollar theory either. Our dollar was in the tank for several years and we had extremely low gas prices at that point in time. The only reason the prices should jump like they are is if the price goes back to 140 a barrell and sticks. If the prices stay in the area they are there is no reason we should be paying more then 1.10 /L based on what they have charged us in the past.
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09-12-2008, 12:41 PM
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#39
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In Your MCP
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Watching Hot Dog Hans
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Typically most diesel sold in Alberta is Ultra low Sulphur. I'd just be sure it wasnt from a super shady source. Also never run biodiesel because our common rail fuel injection systems can't tolerate the crappy quality of most biodiesel out there.
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Yeah, it comes from Esso so I should be OK.
And Biodiesel if for hippies. I'm way more into 2-strokes, big engines and polluting, all-throttle-no-bottle trucks.
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09-12-2008, 12:46 PM
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by burn_this_city
Oil sold on the commodity markets is for delivery a month down the road. The price shouldnt fluctuate that wildly. But I'll admit it seems to go up faster than down. Oil hit the record high in the 1st or 2nd week in July, so we should see our price trending downward continously over the next couple of months.
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Which probably has something to do with the fact that the summer driving season is over.
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