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Rhettzky · 07-22-2008, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by snowdude

http://communities.canada.com/calgar...y-1-ryder.aspx

Ryder speaks:

Great write-up. Loved the ending...

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Monday's session was no test for the shooters. Their purpose, of course, is to simply put shots on net as directed by the coaches. But on a couple of sequences, Ryder showed a marvellous set of soft hands. Then again, it's easy to look good when you're by yourself. Quite another when Jason Smith is trying to fit his elbow into your ear hole.

looooob · 07-22-2008, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Canada 02

totally different situation; the Oilers didnt have an AHL team at the time, and had limited roster spots from the Penguines

yeah I know was partly kidding around, but still I think there might be a few other examples. goal is the one position where ECHL isnt necessarily kiss of death. he's in real tough to start in the AHL this year so then it comes down to how many pucks he'll see

HOOT · 07-22-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Yeah it is indeed encouraging. Having Taratuhkin, Gioradno and Ryder all "leave" the organization last off-season was discouraging for an organization that is already not very deep in prospects.

Fast forward and both appear back in the fold.

Ryder could of course flake out again - but one hopes that he stays with it because the talent is certainly there.

Is there a chance we see Taratuhkin back? I didn't really follow when he left the team so I don't know how the "break up" went.

JiriHrdina · 07-22-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOT

Is there a chance we see Taratuhkin back? I didn't really follow when he left the team so I don't know how the "break up" went.

He broke a signed contract so i doubt it.

FlamesAddiction · 07-22-2008, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by HOOT

Is there a chance we see Taratuhkin back? I didn't really follow when he left the team so I don't know how the "break up" went.

Going from memory, Sutter's comments were not overly harsh and it didn't sound like the door was slammed shut. He said something along the lines of Taratukhin having a contract with the Flames and he could still come back to honour it.

I doubt it will ever happen though. Taratukhin didn't exactly light the world on fire when he went back to Russia. His conditioning was horrible according to his Russian coaches - so it makes you wonder how seriously he tried in NA. He's also probably better off career-wise in Russia where he can play a more prominent role. He's no spring chicken any more.

Canada 02 · 07-22-2008, 10:12 AM

Irving
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...8-cf4c051e9a62

Keetley
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...c-b48e63503f42

Ryder
http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...1-6413cd16032d

Stud_McCool · 07-22-2008, 10:22 AM

So, is it fair to assume that Dan Ryder has more talent than his brother?
Michael Ryder is an established NHLer after all, even though last season was almost a write-off for him.

Fire · 07-22-2008, 10:24 AM

Ryder sounds like a guy who could get "sick" of hockey again at any time. Sounds like a guy that doesn't really enjoy the game and just in it for the money.

looooob · 07-22-2008, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Stud_McCool

So, is it fair to assume that Dan Ryder has more talent than his brother?
Michael Ryder is an established NHLer after all, even though last season was almost a write-off for him.

I think the thinking a few years ago was that he was a better all around player than Michael, but Michael gets by on some attributes (shot etc) that Daniel doesn't have

chris lindberg · 07-22-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by coldraptors

Sutter believes Backlund a genuine shot at the squad this year but since we already have about 15 forwards signed, he will play in Sweden this year.

If the kid is ready for a top six foward postion, I would think Darryl Sutter would very easily make room for him, just deal off one of Primeau or Moss.

chris lindberg · 07-22-2008, 10:49 AM

I was really surprised when Taratukhin left, there were so many good reports of his play down in Omaha, hitting hard playing right wing on their top line but never got the call up from Calgary though.

Dan Ryder is back, right on!

Jebus · 07-22-2008, 10:57 AM

Hey blogger, how long have the sessions been lasting?

I want to head down this week and need to figure out when/how long I will be away from the office.

Cheers.
-J

Caged Great · 07-22-2008, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jebus

Hey blogger, how long have the sessions been lasting?

I want to head down this week and need to figure out when/how long I will be away from the office.

Cheers.
-J

They are from 8:30-2 every day this week.

the goalies get a warm up for a half hour, group a 9-12 and B from 11-2 IIRC

MrMastodonFarm · 07-22-2008, 11:07 AM

Good stuff so far guys, loved seeing the goalie gear. Keetley has a Tabaracchi (first stint) type Flames, very deep and dark, love it.

As for Ryder, it's great that he is back. If he needed the year, fine, I just hope he doesn't need another one down the line. Dan had 5 points in 6 AHL games last year. That's after missing an entire summer, and showing up late for camp. He can be a player, and if his head is back in it, he is our best offensie prospect behind Backlund.

nuttjeremy · 07-22-2008, 11:17 AM

Glad to see Dan Ryder back in the mix, hopefully everything in his life is back on track. I would love to see that kid in a Flames uni down the road...

Flame4Ever · 07-22-2008, 12:18 PM

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With four other skaters -- Mikael Backlund, Kris Chucko, John Armstrong, Alexander Deilert -- Ryder had been on the Pengrowth Saddledome's ice for Monday's goalies-only session to provide authoritative shots for the netminders

Apparently our 7 th round pick has crossed the pond and is attending camp. Did he get drafted in the CHL by anybody? Or is this a small trip to scout things out like Per Johnsson did last year?

Canada 02 · 07-22-2008, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Flame4Ever

Apparently our 7 th round pick has crossed the pond and is attending camp. Did he get drafted in the CHL by anybody? Or is this a small trip to scout things out like Per Johnsson did last year?

don't see anything special about him being here, anymore than Backlund or any prospect in the organization (foreign or domestic); not a big deal to spend $3-5K on a plane ticket, room and board for a week. I think its a bigger surprise that Per Jonsson isnt here

Five-hole · 07-22-2008, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire

Ryder sounds like a guy who could get "sick" of hockey again at any time. Sounds like a guy that doesn't really enjoy the game and just in it for the money.

It's something to be worried about. Let's hope maturity carries with it a certain diligence.

Flame4Ever · 07-22-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Canada 02

don't see anything special about him being here, anymore than Backlund or any prospect in the organization (foreign or domestic); not a big deal to spend $3-5K on a plane ticket, room and board for a week. I think its a bigger surprise that Per Jonsson isnt here

Actually Per Jonsson didn't show up to the first camp right after he was drafted. I think it has something to do with getting a release from the swedish team they're currently playing for.
The fact that Deilert is here shows to me that he is at least serious about trying to play in NA. Given the uncertainty with the lack of transfer agreement, that's a good thing.

thefanblogger · 07-22-2008, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jebus

Hey blogger, how long have the sessions been lasting?

I want to head down this week and need to figure out when/how long I will be away from the office.

Cheers.
-J

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