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Old 12-17-2004, 07:00 PM   #21
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Originally posted by Sammie+Dec 17 2004, 06:43 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Sammie @ Dec 17 2004, 06:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-arsenal@Dec 17 2004, 09:39 AM
Its like that even in Canada. I worked in retail, and we were not aloud to say "Merry Christmas", we had to say "Seasons Greetings".

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It's worse in Canada. [/b][/quote]
I referred to a story about a nativity scene in city hall (Calgary) that nobody seems to mind and the Christmas tree is banned in Florida but things are "worse" in Canada?

Care to explain that?
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:07 PM   #22
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Yeah I don't see Christmas trees as really being religious. Even if they were how could they be banned if you ae supposed to have freedom of religion. I can understand the whole 'Season's Greetings' vs 'Merry Christmas' debate even if I don't really agreee with it and think that if anyone is p*ssed off you said Merry Christmas to them, then there are probably a little too sensitive for their own good.

I don't believe in having the trees becuase I think they probably do a lot better in the forest then in a home. Fake's the way to go I think, but that's just my opinion. (Course those are banned too right?) I really don't see how it could be considered a religious symbol (or at least a modern one) and even if it was, people should still be allowed to have them.
This morning a Moslem guy sent an email to the Rutherford Show wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas and wondered why Christians were expected to behave so politically correct. This was in response Vision Channel's attack on the Samaritan's Purse Shoe box program. We need more people of different religions sticking up each other!
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:09 PM   #23
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Its like that even in Canada. I worked in retail, and we were not aloud to say "Merry Christmas", we had to say "Seasons Greetings".

PC is destroying the world.

It's worse in Canada.
I referred to a story about a nativity scene in city hall (Calgary) that nobody seems to mind and the Christmas tree is banned in Florida but things are "worse" in Canada?

Care to explain that? [/b][/quote]
Are you and arsenal the same person? What I was suggesting is that the Political Correctness fanaticism is far worse in Canada. It's how the Liberals stay in power even though they continue loosing a billion dollars a year of the taxpayers money. If it weren't for Political Correctness the people on CBC radio would have nothing to talk about.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:14 PM   #24
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Ha ha ha. No. Why do you ask?
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:27 PM   #25
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Ha ha ha.# No.# Why do you ask?
Oops! You better read my earlier post again . . . I edited it.

I knew nothing about your reference to what happened at city hall when I made that post. I was responding to arsenal so when you responded like I was responding to you I naturally began to wonder so I thought it might be a good idea to find out if you had an alter ego.
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Old 12-17-2004, 07:43 PM   #26
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Ha ha ha.# No.# Why do you ask?
Oops! You better read my earlier post again . . . I edited it.

I knew nothing about your reference to what happened at city hall when I made that post. I was responding to arsenal so when you responded like I was responding to you I naturally began to wonder so I thought it might be a good idea to find out if you had an alter ego. [/b][/quote]
I knew what you meant -- that political correctness was "worse in Canada. I don't think so and I provided an example (the nativity scene in Calgary's city hall) so again, if we are so anti-religion and "PC" in Canada then how come this happens?

Regarding the hated CBC -- I was listening to the CBC just yesterday and I'll be darned but parts of the show were dedicated to having kids phone in and sing Christmas carols like "Jingle Bells" and "Silent Night". So I guess you'll hafta find something else to bitch about because that is a lot more Christmasy than the other radio stations I'm sure.

And another thing -- retail flunkies saying "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas" is not "politically correct", it's "capitalism". The government or the CBC or some godless Communist special interest group didn't have anything to do with it. It's all about money and being very careful that you don't "insult" a customer.

It's stupid to be sure but it's not political correctness.
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I knew what you meant -- that political correctness was "worse in Canada. I don't think so and I provided an example (the nativity scene in Calgary's city hall) so again, if we are so anti-religion and "PC" in Canada then how come this happens?

Regarding the hated CBC -- I was listening to the CBC just yesterday and I'll be darned but parts of the show were dedicated to having kids phone in and sing Christmas carols like "Jingle Bells" and "Silent Night". So I guess you'll hafta find something else to bitch about because that is a lot more Christmasy than the other radio stations I'm sure.

And another thing -- retail flunkies saying "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas" is not "politically correct", it's "capitalism". The government or the CBC or some godless Communist special interest group didn't have anything to do with it. It's all about money and being very careful that you don't "insult" a customer.

It's stupid to be sure but it's not political correctness.
That's exactly what political correctness is all about. Spending too much time worrying about possibly insulting someone and then dummying down everything into a meaninglessness beige blob. If a few people are offended about the way we've lived for generations, they need to suck it up and get real!
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I knew what you meant -- that political correctness was "worse in Canada. I don't think so and I provided an example (the nativity scene in Calgary's city hall) so again, if we are so anti-religion and "PC" in Canada then how come this happens?

Regarding the hated CBC -- I was listening to the CBC just yesterday and I'll be darned but parts of the show were dedicated to having kids phone in and sing Christmas carols like "Jingle Bells" and "Silent Night". So I guess you'll hafta find something else to bitch about because that is a lot more Christmasy than the other radio stations I'm sure.

And another thing -- retail flunkies saying "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas" is not "politically correct", it's "capitalism". The government or the CBC or some godless Communist special interest group didn't have anything to do with it. It's all about money and being very careful that you don't "insult" a customer.

It's stupid to be sure but it's not political correctness.
That's exactly what political correctness is all about. Spending too much time worrying about possibly insulting someone and then dummying down everything into a meaninglessness beige blob. If a few people are offended about the way we've lived for generations, they need to suck it up and get real! [/b][/quote]
No being PC is more about not wanting to hurt someones feelings or being told to act a certain way because it's proper or right or whatever. The govenment not having Christmas tress in public areas for instance. The stores aren't doing it because they feel it's right or don't want to hurt someones' feelings. Their doing it so they don't lose a paying customer.

And be careful with your last comment. Yes there are plenty of examples were people are hyper sensitive over silly things, but there are also many examples where it has been better to change a tradition or practice in order to welcome others or see things from a different point of view, or change bad habits.
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I knew what you meant -- that political correctness was "worse in Canada.# I don't think so and I provided an example (the nativity scene in Calgary's city hall) so again, if we are so anti-religion and "PC" in Canada then how come this happens?

Regarding the hated CBC -- I was listening to the CBC just yesterday and I'll be darned but parts of the show were dedicated to having kids phone in and sing Christmas carols like "Jingle Bells" and "Silent Night".# So I guess you'll hafta find something else to bitch about because that is a lot more Christmasy than the other radio stations I'm sure.

And another thing -- retail flunkies saying "Season's Greetings" instead of "Merry Christmas"# is not "politically correct", it's "capitalism".# The government or the CBC or some godless Communist special interest group didn't have anything to do with it.# It's all about money and being very careful that you don't "insult" a customer.

It's stupid to be sure but it's not political correctness.

That's exactly what political correctness is all about. Spending too much time worrying about possibly insulting someone and then dummying down everything into a meaninglessness beige blob. If a few people are offended about the way we've lived for generations, they need to suck it up and get real!
No being PC is more about not wanting to hurt someones feelings or being told to act a certain way because it's proper or right or whatever. The govenment not having Christmas tress in public areas for instance. The stores aren't doing it because they feel it's right or don't want to hurt someones' feelings. Their doing it so they don't lose a paying customer.

And be careful with your last comment. Yes there are plenty of examples were people are hyper sensitive over silly things, but there are also many examples where it has been better to change a tradition or practice in order to welcome others or see things from a different point of view, or change bad habits.[/b][/quote]
I think we're in agreement for the most part. You just have a narrower, more politically correct definition of politically correctness than I do.

Careful about my last comment? Why? I'm not ashamed about what my parents, my community, or country represented over the last 150 years. Compared to the rest of the world, there hasn't been a much better place to live and grow up. That's why people from all over the world are prepared to lie to get into our country.

Unfortunately, we have a few malcontents, who have the ear of this weak-kneed government, trying to change whatever was good with their personal agenda using political correctness as a club to beat the average Canadian into submission.
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