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fredr123 · 06-19-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Phaneuf3

...yes.
the way i'm reading it, you can now only use force under the situations listed to stop an action in process. not to correct behavior.

also, the way its worded it makes it sounds like the actions you're trying to stop need to be on the level of criminal actions.

Son, that's not how you mix a Bloody Mary. Now get over here so I can correct your behavior with my belt!

Phaneuf3 · 06-19-2008, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Slava

This might come as a surprise to some...but there are actually other ways to correct behaviour!

who's to say one is always right and one is always wrong. there's a time and place and situation where different punishments and corrections are appropriate and others where they're not.

making spanking criminal is going down the wrong path... hell in a hand basket!

fredr123 · 06-19-2008, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by llama64

How do you train a dog? Using physical force (within limits).

Why are children any different. There's a difference between beating a child and spanking them to reinforce the concept of punishment. If you take away the ability to lay hands on your own kids, welcome to a generation of whiny self-indulgent brats that will make the millennium generation look like a cake walk.

This might belong here someday: http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=59370

CaptainCrunch · 06-19-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by fredr123

Son, that's not how you mix a Bloody Mary. Now get over here so I can correct your behavior with my belt!

Thanks Bing.

Now son, why don't you go down and get a bag of Oranges, you see son if you hit a child with a sack of oranges then it doesn't leave a mark. Thats advice that you can live by.

CaptainCrunch · 06-19-2008, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by chid

Mother's weapon of choice: wooden spoon
Dad's weapon of choice: slipper
IT was RARE they brought them out, but honestly most of the times it was deserved and I believe it kept me in line until the age of.. say 10 or so when I was too old and didn't care as long as I still got to hang out with my friends..

Past that age my parents figured taking things away was a much worse punishment so it turned into loss of computer time, no tv, my parents even went so far as to remove my sisters bedroom door because she stole from them. I think that was the best punishment - because it required physical effort to put the door back on which meant it wasn't easy for my parents to back out on grounding her.

Wow we could be related. Except that my dad would remove the door, then hit me with it.

flamesfever · 06-19-2008, 10:33 AM

If it were me I'd bring back the strap in schools and flogging for some young offenders.

fredr123 · 06-19-2008, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by chid

Mother's weapon of choice: wooden spoon
Dad's weapon of choice: slipper
IT was RARE they brought them out, but honestly most of the times it was deserved and I believe it kept me in line until the age of.. say 10 or so when I was too old and didn't care as long as I still got to hang out with my friends..

Past that age my parents figured taking things away was a much worse punishment so it turned into loss of computer time, no tv, my parents even went so far as to remove my sisters bedroom door because she stole from them. I think that was the best punishment - because it required physical effort to put the door back on which meant it wasn't easy for my parents to back out on grounding her.

My parents used similar tools but it was mom who favored the slipper and dad who employed the spoon. Or belt. Some may question whether I turned out all right given the path my life has followed thus far...

VANFLAMESFAN · 06-19-2008, 10:37 AM

Wooden Spoon........ugggh.....I still have flashbacks when I hear the wooder spoon drawer close. If I heard that, I knew I messed up.

My mom's favorite thing to do when my room was too messy was to open up every drawer, and throw all the clothes all over the place. Apparently adding to the mess helped clean up. She also on occasion grabbed a wire hanger from the closet and whip the attitude off my ass.

fredr123 · 06-19-2008, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Thanks Bing.

Now son, why don't you go down and get a bag of Oranges, you see son if you hit a child with a sack of oranges then it doesn't leave a mark. Thats advice that you can live by.

I didn't get it at first but once I clued in... LOL

GirlySports · 06-19-2008, 10:39 AM

You guys are bring up bad memories!
My butt-cheeks are starting to hurt now.

The Goon · 06-19-2008, 10:54 AM

I am so doing the "remove the door" punishment when my (hypothetical) kids misbehave. That's brilliant!

chid · 06-19-2008, 10:57 AM

Definitely, it was super embarassing for her. She stole from my parents so they stole her privacy from her.

Azure · 06-19-2008, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Slava

The bill that you quoted fredr123 looks pretty rational to me? Looks like you can still spank your kids, but just sets out some pretty obvious instances where you can?

Since when should the government be telling you how to discipline your kids?

fredr123 · 06-19-2008, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Since when should the government be telling you how to discipline your kids?

Since 1892, actually

Azure · 06-19-2008, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by fredr123

Since 1892, actually

Which is ridiculous.

Just like the Copyright bill, all this is going to do is turn a bunch of 'good' parents into criminals.

Thunderball · 06-19-2008, 11:13 AM

The government has more than enough problems... now they want to target online file sharing and parents that spank their kids? Grab a brain. Judges need to be put on a leash, and politicians need to be put to task for submitting garbage like this.

Aeneas · 06-19-2008, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Azure

Which is ridiculous.

Just like the Copyright bill, all this is going to do is turn a bunch of 'good' parents into criminals.

Didn't really want to wade into this mire AGAIN, but

Are you defining those who spank thier children as all good parents.
Do you not see it as possible that there may be some parents who spank thier children to the point of abuse?

Once again it will come down to your definition of spanking, or beating or abuse. Maybe the more emotionally involved the less likely to see that line.

I believe in the less government interference the better, however there are children and spouses who get abused and have no one to protect them. Sadly they will learn from this abuse and perhaps perpetuate it.

Because they are your children, I don't think that gives you the right to do whatever you will to them.

I think it would be better if role models, relatives, neighbors, or community leaders step in when it is clear spanking has become beating; but that just doesn't happen in this day. I have doubts the gov't can stop abuse either.

"You can't tell me what to do in my own house!"
"Don't tell me how to correct my child's behaviour"

Sometimes on this board we wonder where this sense of entitlement today's youth has, comes from. Hmmm.

troutman · 06-19-2008, 11:29 AM

I generally would not spank, but if one of my children, put himself or his brother in danger, I don't think I would hesitate. Nothing harsh, but enough to get their attention. Probably won't work when they are older.

V · 06-19-2008, 11:38 AM

How old is your kid? Mine's 14 months, and I'm not afraid to give him a quick smack on the ol' derriere. It's not like it hurts, through all that diaper, but he gets the idea. Good enough for me.

macker · 06-19-2008, 11:45 AM

Guess we are trying to keep up with Europe? Sweden...since 1979...who knew!

http://www.molnies.com/2007/corporal...und-the-world/