Your kids deserve respect!

[ericschand]

Originally Posted by Draug

Man, I feel bad for the kids in the OP's story.

My daughter is only 2.5. I bet it has been over a year since she discovered pride. When she accomplishes something, you can tell that she is overjoyed that she has done the job. She especially beams when she pleases her Mother and I.

Those poor kindergarten kids just wanted to make the parents proud of their kids. The parents couldnt even be bothered to pay attention. Truly a shame.

This Friday, my daughter has the final lesson in her gymnastics 'class'. All the parents are invited to attend. I'll report back on the behavior of this group of parents.

I felt, and still do, very angry for the kids. The teachers/staff as well.
They worked their butts off to get it done, my daughter would come home
every night and practice her lines (and some of the others too).

What did work is at her dance recital. One of the admin staff came
out for introductions, and said, "These are kids. In front of an audience.
They are scared. They are worried. If you make noise, any noise, they
will stop and get frustrated. Do not laugh. They will make mistakes and
for them it isn't cute."

And it worked. No one, not one parent talked or made noise. Cellphones
and the like came out and were immediately turned off. Applause when
each group came on, applause/cheering when they went off. That's all
you heard.

Made for a very pleasant and enjoyable show.

Edit: Forgot to mention the smiles of the dance kids when they came
out after they were all done was in direct contrast to the cavalier
attitude the kids at the graduation after their show. Very telling on
how the kids felt?

ers

[fatso]

Originally Posted by Hemi-Cuda

it's quite simple, not enough parents these days beat their kids. if i ever did something bad enough to warrant an ass whuppin, i sure as hell never did it again. if i was rude or inconsiderate as a kid, a slap up the head put me in line real quick. but now we have kids growing up who never have a reason to fear authority because their parents refuse to discipline them and they become jackasses

so please, like Russell Peters says, just beat your kids

I couldn't agree more.

When I was doing something wrong, my parents would let me know. Failure to comply meant a lickin'... As such, by the time I was around 7 or 8, I understood when I was in trouble, how to behave in public, and how to speak to people - kids and adults - with respect.

I see kids at the mall, disrupting all hell and screaming "I want it!" and their parents are trying to reason with them! It makes no sense... children are not adults, and lack the requisite mental capacity to engage and follow reason. That doesn't mean you spank them every time they yell, or spank them in public.... it means you teach them to listen to you when you talk to them and tell them something, and if they don't want to follow the rules they get spanked! When I started acting up at the mall my father would give me "that look", and I would stop whatever sh*t I was doing instantly. We definitely don't have that anymore in this society, and it's a shame.

And, as an addendum, I should say that I harbor no ill-feelings towards my parents. The notion that all they were doing is instilling fear in me is completely and totally bunk. They managed to instill in me a wicked anti-authoritarian streak in me (of which I'm pretty proud), but also ensured that I would be respectful and polite to people and treat them as I'd like to be treated. They spanked me, and I'm glad they did. I respect them for it, and appreciate them caring enough to do it.

[J pold]

What’s with the flat brimmed balls caps and young kids these days?

I was at the YMCA a couple of days ago and I saw two young kids who couldn’t have been more than 6 both rocking flat brimmed baseball caps they looked ridiculous

[J pold]

Yeah my parents beat me too, oh the old wooden spoon….

But yeah like fatso said I don’t harbor any resentment towards them, and I turned out alright

[CaptainCrunch]

When I was growing up, my parents were actually harder on me then my 3 older sisters. If I did something wrong, I got warned about dire consequences, and when I hit a certain age, I knew exactly what those consequences were. My dad thought nothing of spanking us when we were younger, and then when we hit a certain age spankings turned into groundings, and they were real groundings, none of this time out crap that they use nowdays. It was two or three weeks, no T.V., no phone, no computers (yes we had those in our day), no going outside and playing. You were out of school at 3:15, home by 3:30, and you had your nose in your homework at 3:45 with lights out at 9:00. On weekends it was back breaking yard work. Eventually, if my dad looked at me funny, I knew I was about to cross the line.

I didn't figure it out until I was 20, and having a beer with my dad on the deck, and I was laughing about the cheap labour that he got during 1 grounding. He put down the beer and gave me the look, then he said something that really stuck with me.

"When your growing up, I am the dad, the ultimate authority in your life, but its not all thrills and power, that makes a bad father. My job was not to be your friend, or your confidant, my job was to give you morals, teach you to think, make right decisions and give you a work ethic. If I had to punish you to make you a better person, you might have hated me at the time, but I bet you love me for it now.

We made sure you had good food, clothes, and solid family, the best education that you could get, and a leg up in a world that doesn't care about you.

When you turned 19, and you left home, we could be friends, confidance, share stories and whatever, but I noticed that you bought the beer today and you didn't need to ask me for money to do it, that means I've done my job".

I've seen too many parents that want to be their kids best buddy in the whole wide world, they want to be the cool parent, they don't want to face the hard realities of life that their kids are going to face so they coddle them, give into them, spoil them, and don't set them up for later. I've seen parents that are actually handicapping their kid with kindness and then they're astonished when the kid fails. I get so angry when I see some spoiled brat running roughshod over a restaurant or a store and their mother or father says "Please don't do that buddy". Please? In my day, you'd hear "Don't even think of doing that" before I had done it, and if I challenged it, the next words I heard were "Thats it, we're going home"

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by J pold

Yeah my parents beat me too, oh the old wooden spoon….

But yeah like fatso said I don’t harbor any resentment towards them, and I turned out alright

Mom used the wooden spoon until I got pissed off and cut it into pieces with the band saw in the garage. for that, my mom drove me to the store, made me buy a new one with my money, and then when we got home, she beat the tar out of me with it.

[Teh_Bandwagoner]

I always got a good ol' fashioned beat down as a child. I think the weapons I feared the most as a child were the bamboo feather duster and the tried and true leather belt. And meh I turned out alright. Better than these punk kids today.

At least that's what my therapist tells me...

[wpgflamesfan]

Originally Posted by Berger_4_

Dude, we're like the same person. I'll do my best to help out people, hold the door, etc. for them. And when I see some of the wankster morons we've got walking around that are our age, I shake my head. It's unfortunate how they give us such a bad rap. Now, sometimes I do stupid things (as the burn on my leg from 2 weekends ago shows) but I do my damndest to not do that stuff in front of adults. I do my best not to swear in a public place, especially when there's kids around. Not to say I don't swear around people, I'm probably one of the most vulgar people I know. But to hear some of the stuff people say around kids is ridiculous.
/ego building

Exactly how I feel. I know people say you should always be your self and crap like that but I think there's defenitly a time when certain things are appropriate and other times when they are not. The wankster kids also really bug me. Your white kids living in the suburbs. Your not hardcore ballers from south central. Stop dressing and acting like it. Trust me you'll get alot more respect.

Originally Posted by Berger_4_

As for the value of a dollar thing. I've got a friend who's had 5 jobs in the past year. 5. How is that possible. I don't think he's lasted more than a week at a couple places...always complaining about the paycheck. Shut up and do your damn job. Sure it sucks, but hey, you've got a 17000 dollar truck that you got your parents to buy you and are going to have to "pay back". He's also the one who, while he's 17 grand in debt, dropped 300 dollars in Oilers jerseys just because he wanted to. And now just bought an xbox. Gah! I just want to slap some of this generation! Actually, I want to slap most of them.
/rant...for now

On a slightly more positive note, I'm going to make a great old man. Get the hell off my lawn! Damn kids...

Not to take a shot at Alberta or anything but my buddies here in Manitoba seem to have a better concept of money . It's not that their poorer or anything like that but they've grown up in a society where money is harder to get and therefor throw it around alot less. But yeah back in Alberta I have to shake my head at alot of friends purchases as their already building debt at 16-18 years old.

[J pold]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

Mom used the wooden spoon until I got pissed off and cut it into pieces with the band saw in the garage. for that, my mom drove me to the store, made me buy a new one with my money, and then when we got home, she beat the tar out of me with it.

That easily the best store of child abuse I have ever herd

[Locke]

Originally Posted by J pold

That easily the best store of child abuse I have ever herd

See, Child Abuse can be funny....

[J pold]

Originally Posted by Locke

See, Child Abuse can be funny....

Can be? It’s the pinnacle of hilarity

[dubc80]

I've noticed this at the last couple weddings Ive been to as well. People talking during the speeches and the presentations making it hard to hear the toasts. WEAK!

Whats up with people nowadays? Zero respect.

[NSFL]

Originally Posted by llama64

I've seen too many parents that want to be their kids best buddy in the whole wide world, they want to be the cool parent, they don't want to face the hard realities of life that their kids are going to face so they coddle them, give into them, spoil them, and don't set them up for later. I've seen parents that are actually handicapping their kid with kindness and then they're astonished when the kid fails. I get so angry when I see some spoiled brat running roughshod over a restaurant or a store and their mother or father says "Please don't do that buddy". Please? In my day, you'd hear "Don't even think of doing that" before I had done it, and if I challenged it, the next words I heard were "Thats it, we're going home"

This is too true. I never got beat, but when I misbehaved in public, it was home time. We were not staying. There was no reasoning, it was either behave, or we go. And on this subject, I went and saw Indiana jones a couple weeks back and the kid sitting beside me would not shut up. I wasn't sure if it has been always like that but he just wouldn't stop talking. And his father would tell him to hush, but that did nothing. Are most kids like this or was it just a rotten child?

[bigtmac19]

Originally Posted by Traditional_Ale

I'm fairly sure if I had been there I would have made sure everyone shut up and listened.

I'm fairly sure it's also the reason why I don't have kids.

Agreed!

I have kids and I would have been someone who would have stood up and told people to be quiet I want to hear my child's program. That kind of rude behaviour just drives me crazy.

As to kid's behaviour, mine are 14 and 19 and are both polite and respectful and certainly know what behaviour is expected of them, especially in public. They always have been. And if age or any other problem would have prevented them from behaving properly in a public situation, they did not go. A lot of people insist on bringing their children to events and programs they have no interest in or patience for and then wonder why they act up. I never brought either of my kids to a movie until I knew they could sit through a 1-1/2 movie and behave reasonably.

Also enough ranting.


This topic could go on forever.

[Hemi-Cuda]

the worst weapon for me as a kid was when mom reached for the icing spreader (flat rubber piece on a wooden stick), i ran out of the house as fast as i could when i saw her going for that

[GirlySports]

I maybe naive but I would like to think that this is still the minority and that most kids still have good upbringing.

That being said the other day a girl came into my office for a job interview and her cellphone rang TWICE.

[Sainters7]

Originally Posted by J pold

What’s with the flat brimmed balls caps and young kids these days?

I was at the YMCA a couple of days ago and I saw two young kids who couldn’t have been more than 6 both rocking flat brimmed baseball caps they looked ridiculous

The new one seems to be the same type of hat, only they actually flip up the brim a bit, ala those old Ocean Pacific hats from the early 90's. And they've all got the hair comin out the bottom of the hat equally flipped up, like hockey hair. The best is when you can totally tell their hair is poker straight, yet they have about 10lbs of product in there(who actually does their hair when they're wearin a hat??) to keep it flipped. As a person with curly hair, I get an absolute kick out of it.

[Locke]

So, reading this thread we must come to following conclusions:

- Kids deserve respect
- Those darn kids are misbehaving and have no respect
- Kids are spoiled and generally unrespectable
- The next generation of uproarious hellions will spell our doom
- Kids have to learn to respect others
- Kids have to earn respect
- Kids dont deserve respect

Keep it coming, this is some good stuff.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Locke

So, reading this thread we must come to following conclusions:

- Kids deserve respect
- Those darn kids are misbehaving and have no respect
- Kids are spoiled and generally unrespectable
- The next generation of uproarious hellions will spell our doom
- Kids have to learn to respect others
- Kids have to earn respect
- Kids dont deserve respect

Keep it coming, this is some good stuff.

I worry that at some point, when I'm 60, the prime minister is going to be some punk kid who wears his hat backwards or sideways or flat, listens to hard gangsta rap, and threatens to put a cap in the ass of the president of Liberia, all while the government funds the making of hardcore dwarf pornography, holds his cabinet meetings on the skateboard ramp and addresss the press as "Yo, why so harsh dude"

[peter12]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

I'm not a ######, and I'm 19. Similar to the other guys my age who have posted here. Sigh. We get a bad rep out there though.

I've had five jobs in the last year though... it's really not that hard. Granted, one was seasonal just for the summer, but check it out:

April - June 2007: Totem Stock Guy
July - August 2007: Drama Camp Helper
September 2007 - April 2008: Jack Singer Usher
March 2008 - Present: Country 105 Street Team
April 2008 - Present: EB Games Sales Associate

But I stayed at a lot of them for a while, and the two I have now are quite permanent.

The Jack Singer didn't work out for ya?!