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Old 06-09-2008, 05:03 PM   #21
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I remember Air Canada made me sit on the toilet during a flight once... but that was more due to the airplane food they gave me.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:11 PM   #22
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Did they shuffle him out of there whenever anyone had to drop some cargo off, and then did he have to go back in and live the stench, because people tend to pretty much smell up airplane bathrooms without fail.
Worst case sinero is the toilet blowing up and they guy becoming the latest version of the blue man.
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Old 06-09-2008, 05:15 PM   #23
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Something doesn't jibe here - have you ever been on a flight where the washroom wasn't occupied at least 80% of the time? Especially, as is obvious from the story, when the flight was completely full?

There has to be more to this story than what has been reported.
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Old 06-09-2008, 06:34 PM   #24
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Damn I'm flying JetBlue to NY next week, I hope the $20 upgrade I paid for the seat with more leg room doesn't mean I get the captain's crapper!
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:47 PM   #25
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He was on a buddy pass..
There seems to be a bit of a misconception about a buddy pass. My friend works for Air Canada and I am on his list for his buddy passes. They do allow you to fly for quite a discounted rate, about $200 round trip to anywhere, but they are not free flights. In the end, he is indeed still a customer.
More than anything, this is the check-in desk's error. They shouldn't have allowed him on the plane on his stand-by pass as there were no empty seats left. The flight attendant may have been an employee, but her seniority puts her priority above his when it comes to flying stand-by.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:50 PM   #26
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I wonder if these airplane bathrooms are a safe haven from peanut dust particles.
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:56 PM   #27
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There seems to be a bit of a misconception about a buddy pass. My friend works for Air Canada and I am on his list for his buddy passes. They do allow you to fly for quite a discounted rate, about $200 round trip to anywhere, but they are not free flights. In the end, he is indeed still a customer.
More than anything, this is the check-in desk's error. They shouldn't have allowed him on the plane on his stand-by pass as there were no empty seats left. The flight attendant may have been an employee, but her seniority puts her priority above his when it comes to flying stand-by.
He got one of the seats that are normaly reserved for flight employees. It was available when he checked in. Flight atendants normaly sit in their jump seats when not serving passengers.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:13 PM   #28
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He got one of the seats that are normaly reserved for flight employees. It was available when he checked in. Flight atendants normaly sit in their jump seats when not serving passengers.
That's a good point, I guess I should read the article. If she was on duty then there is no excuse for her taking up the empty passenger seat simply because the jumpseat was "uncomfortable". If she was off duty and bumped him on the stand by list, he should have not been allowed on.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:20 PM   #29
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Ok, I just read it. Sounds like bad service and communication all around. But, if the flight attendant opted for the jump seat and then changed her mind, after the guy had already boarded the plane, then too damn bad for her, she should be stuck with the jump seat.
But... that does not in any way excuse a $2 million lawsuit.
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Old 06-09-2008, 08:45 PM   #30
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Worst case sinero is the toilet blowing up and they guy becoming the latest version of the blue man.
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:28 PM   #31
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Ok, I just read it. Sounds like bad service and communication all around. But, if the flight attendant opted for the jump seat and then changed her mind, after the guy had already boarded the plane, then too damn bad for her, she should be stuck with the jump seat.
But... that does not in any way excuse a $2 million lawsuit.
Chances are he'll get an apology and a free ticket anywhere BlueJet flies. Other than that the guy should go fly a kite if he seriously thinks he'll get more.
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Old 06-09-2008, 11:10 PM   #32
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Getting a buddy pass is a privilege and does not equate to a normal revenue passenger. He was not a customer, he was a guest of an employee. That doesn't mean he should be treated like dirt, but he does not have the same rights as a customer, just like any employee who is traveling standby.

After that, it all depends on where the truth in this specific situation lies, because all there is here is one side of the story.
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Old 06-10-2008, 03:58 AM   #33
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I wonder if these airplane bathrooms are a safe haven from peanut dust particles.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:07 AM   #34
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I'm against USA type frivolous lawsuits, but this guy is 100% justified in suing the airline. They made him sit on the god damn toilet.

$2 million is just a number they threw out there so they can settle for much less. Happens all the time. Good on him. I hope he takes them to the cleaners.
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:17 AM   #35
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Getting a buddy pass is a privilege and does not equate to a normal revenue passenger. He was not a customer, he was a guest of an employee. That doesn't mean he should be treated like dirt, but he does not have the same rights as a customer, just like any employee who is traveling standby.

After that, it all depends on where the truth in this specific situation lies, because all there is here is one side of the story.
Maybe the privilege isn't the same, but there are issues about making someone sit on the toilet during a flight. First of all, it is degrading, secondly, there must be health and safety concerns.

I could see not giving someone on a buddy pass their choice of aisle or window seats, or not giving them snacks or headsets... but to not give them a seat, that is over the line imo.
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Old 06-10-2008, 12:06 PM   #36
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Totally agree if that was actually what happened. I doubt that his version of events is in fact the complete truth, but if it is it was totally inappropriate, and in fact illegal.

But the earlier statement about him being like any other customer is incorrect, he is receiving a privilege as a guest of an employee. He should still be treated well, but he does not have the same rights as a customer (can be bumped, gets whatever seat is remaining if any are left, only gets food if there is enough, etc).
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