The Incredible Hulk

[Hack&Lube]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Doesn't look too bad, but it's kind of weird that it's basically another origin story when they just did that a couple years ago.

Doesn't look as good as Iron Man.

Iron Man is in it...

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

Iron Man is in it...

That part was awesome. Wish they would have ended Iron Man with the "hidden" scene with Nick Fury.

[Displaced Flames fan]

[quote=flip;1345548]

WTF?

Ok lets compare similarities of Lady in the Water and The Happening.

Same writer, same director, hence likely to have the same kind of "feel"

Hulk vs Incredible Hulk. Whole new writer, director, actors, even the type of movie is different. Hulk was very cartoony and ######ed, Incredible Hulk on the other hand is not silly and cartoony, it is serious and very character driven.

That's how the logic works for me. Like the previous poster said, it'd be like not seeing Batman Begins because you didn't like the 60s TV show. Whole different entity.

Thanks for the answer. Not sure why the WTF? is necessary but that's ok. I guess it's kind of obvious that you're pretty emotional in your opinions about both movies being discussed today so I guess that might be it.

Lady in the Water and The Happening, not different entities, Shamalayn (sp?) same crappy writing and directing. Although I loved the Sixth Sense and own Unbreakable. M. Night had some good ideas at first but his whole thing is really wearing thin. In fact his movies have gotten worse with each movie.

Well, that's like your opinion, man. Nothing more. The fiirst part was facts this is opinion. You haven't seen The Happening so I'm not sure how you can have such strong opinions about it. Sounds like you are part of that group that thinks it's the in thing to dislike Shymalan. That's fine, you're entitled but I think it's a bit hypocritical to question someone who won't watch The Incredible Hulk when you are rather strongly bashing a movie you haven't seen in another thread, same writing and directing or not.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

You haven't seen The Happening so I'm not sure how you can have such strong opinions about it. Sounds like you are part of that group that thinks it's the in thing to dislike Shymalan.

Not that this has any bearing on the point you were making to flip about his lack of logic, but The Happening currently has a 20% on RottenTomatoes, while The Incredible Hulk has a 65%.

Just thought I'd throw that out there for those that were wondering how both movies are being reviewed in comparison. (Lady in the Water has a 24%, while the original Hulk movie has a 61%.)

[Displaced Flames fan]

I would have to know what those numbers mean and what rotten tomatoes is to understand your point.

65% of what?

I'm not comparing the films for the record.

[flip]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Thanks for the answer. Not sure why the WTF? is necessary but that's ok. I guess it's kind of obvious that you're pretty emotional in your opinions about both movies being discussed today so I guess that might be it.


Well, that's like your opinion, man. Nothing more. The fiirst part was facts this is opinion. You haven't seen The Happening so I'm not sure how you can have such strong opinions about it. Sounds like you are part of that group that thinks it's the in thing to dislike Shymalan. That's fine, you're entitled but I think it's a bit hypocritical to question someone who won't watch The Incredible Hulk when you are rather strongly bashing a movie you haven't seen in another thread, same writing and directing or not.

not sure what's with the WTF either, it probably wasn't necessary. and yeah as a hardcore comic book fan I am pretty defensive about these movies. I wasn't really trying to bash the Happening just supporting the bashing I'd heard if that makes a difference. I have heard the Happening was pretty weak and likely won't see it because of M. Night Shaymalan's crappy, IMO, writing/directing.

Just seemed a little silly to me that someone wouldn't watch a movie because another that was completely different in all aspects sucked. Again its like not liking Batman and Robin and therefore not liking Batman Begins.

BTW Hulk made $55 million while the Happening...not so much, it did $30 million but after being almost universally panned won't make much more. This likely spells the end of Shaymalan's career.

I'm a firm believer that movies are very much a to each his own type thing, so while I might love the Incredible Hulk someone else might hate it.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Well, the weekend take doesn't surprise me a bit. Summer blockbusters are just that. It's predictable and it's not always an indicator of quality. (that's not meant to reflect on The Incredible Hulk at all).

Why on earth would you think Shymalan's career is over?

I am not a fan of comic books or comic book movies at all. I did very much like Batman Begins and I begrudgingly went to Iron Man and was very pleasantly surprised. I will definitely see The Dark Knight. I will probably see this movie because of my deep affection for Edward Norton and everything he touches. The Bana movie was god awful IMO, though I don't hear much arguing about that stance.

I don't mind having to look past the surface like I did today. That's fine for me. A good action ride is great too.

[flip]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

Well, the weekend take doesn't surprise me a bit. Summer blockbusters are just that. It's predictable and it's not always an indicator of quality. (that's not meant to reflect on The Incredible Hulk at all).

Why on earth would you think Shymalan's career is over?

I am not a fan of comic books or comic book movies at all. I did very much like Batman Begins and I begrudgingly went to Iron Man and was very pleasantly surprised. I will definitely see The Dark Knight. I will probably see this movie because of my deep affection for Edward Norton and everything he touches. The Bana movie was god awful IMO, though I don't hear much arguing about that stance.

I don't mind having to look past the surface like I did today. That's fine for me. A good action ride is great too.

From what I read Fox (the studio who made his first several movies wouldn't fund this one after Lady in the Water was a stinker, IIRC, so Fox gave him an opportunity) had him on a pretty short leash and that if he didn't regain his form they wouldn't be offereing him any more movie opportunities.

If this movie flops after its first weekend like I think it will I don't think he'll get the opportunities to continue making movies. Even fans of his work may not keep coming back if he can't deliver.

And yes the Bana movie was a disgrace and Ang Lee should be punished for making such a horrible movie.

Another random fact, Roger Ebert said the Ang Lee version was good and this one wasn't. What has he been smoking?

[Jetsfan]

Just saw the movie...it was GREAT!!! Ed Norton is well suited to play Banner, There were no scenes with a gamma-irradiated poodle! We had the return of "Hulk SMASH puny humans! The old Hulk TV theme "duh dum dee dum...duh dum dee dum dum..." And Iron Man is "putting a group together" Well worth the $12.50. Now Marvel can reboot Ghost Rider, Daredevil et al who have been abused by other hands.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally Posted by flip

Another random fact, Roger Ebert said the Ang Lee version was good and this one wasn't. What has he been smoking?

I've never liked Ebert as a critic. He blasted Blue Velvet and thought Lynch was just trying to be as shocking as possible and that none of it was necessary.

One of my favorite movies.

[AC]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I would have to know what those numbers mean and what rotten tomatoes is to understand your point.

65% of what?

I'm not comparing the films for the record.

Sorry, I thought RottenTomatoes was a rather well known site, my apologies. Presumptuous on my part.

They "gather reviews from a set pool of approved sources". Such as all the major newspapers movie critics, the critics from city newspapers, magazines, etc. The percentage is based purely on the number of the reviews which deemed the movie to be considered 'fresh' (good), versus 'rotten'.

For example, for The Incredible Hulk, 96 out of the 148 pooled critics' reviews were good. So it has a 67% fresh rating.

They also average a rating for the movie out of ten from each critic.

Obviously the percentages aren't an end-all, be-all representation of the movie, but it gives a good idea how many people (most of which review movies professionally) liked the movie in question.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Thanks Anthony, I'll have to check it out.

I don't always trust reviews...especially from professional critics and I will go see a movie if it looks interesting to me even if the reviews are terrible. I think I'd pay more attention to the out of 10 ratings than the simple yay or nay ones.

Not sure what The Happening got out of 10...I'd probably give it a 5 or 6 at best. It certainly wasn't a great movie...but it was ok...and definitely not a horrible movie IMO.

I think the last movie I saw that I would have to at least consider giving a 10 was 3:10 to Yuma.

When it gets right down to it though, if I need a go to review to determine whether or not to see something, I might employ Mr. Mastadon Farm. We seem to have the same taste.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I will probably see this movie because of my deep affection for Edward Norton and everything he touches.

I imagine that pesky restraining order makes it difficult for you to get your hands on any more of the "things he touches."

In all seriousness, I agree--Norton is awesome. and I love the trend of casting serious actors like Norton in roles like this. One of the things that kept superhero comic titles like Hulk going was the story arc and character development over time that the medium allowed for--something that's not always preserved in film adaptations.

The reviews I've read have been of the "not great, not terrible" variety, but I'll probably check it out. With a 1 year old and a busy schedule I may have to wait until I can get it on Netflix, but maybe soon I'll start going to movies again...

[loob job]

Originally Posted by soulchoice

Nice to see the battle scene at the end of the preview taking place on what looks like Yonge Street in Toronto....you can clearly see the famous strip club Zanzi Bar and the ill fated Sam the Record Man.

That scene was actually filmed on Main Street in Hamilton. I work right beside it and it took them approx. two months to build the set right on the street to make it look like New York. They had the fake subway entrance and cop cars. It was wicked. I walked down the street during the day and it looked like you would picture a slummy New York neighbourhood. They shot the scenes over a two week period at night. They actually asked us to use our building to have the hulk throw a car off of it but our building is old and probably wouldn't have supported the weight of the vehicle. We had huge lights on our building though to light up Main Street for the shooting. It was a very cool time last fall when they did all of this. I couldn't believe the amount of work that went in to building the set, months of work.

[Machiavelli]

Originally Posted by Displaced Flames fan

I think the last movie I saw that I would have to at least consider giving a 10 was 3:10 to Yuma.

Wow, totally agree. I loved that movie.

Okay, I'm done hijacking.

[SportsJunky]

Originally Posted by flip

From what I read Fox (the studio who made his first several movies wouldn't fund this one after Lady in the Water was a stinker, IIRC, so Fox gave him an opportunity) had him on a pretty short leash and that if he didn't regain his form they wouldn't be offereing him any more movie opportunities.

If this movie flops after its first weekend like I think it will I don't think he'll get the opportunities to continue making movies. Even fans of his work may not keep coming back if he can't deliver.

Well he is already attached to at least one new project.


http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=45794

I think he needs to stop writing and stay in the director's chair for awhile. The skinny on The Sixth Sense is that his original script was rewritten numerous times by others and the actual "twist" wasn't even in the script until something like the 18th rewrite by a different writing team.

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan

The reviews I've read have been of the "not great, not terrible" variety, but I'll probably check it out. With a 1 year old and a busy schedule I may have to wait until I can get it on Netflix, but maybe soon I'll start going to movies again...

just wait a few years. I had 5 years of no movies, but now with a 6 year old boy we've been to Ironman, Indy and a few others this summer...with Hulk and DArk Knight on the schedule

these types of movies aren't my favorite genre, but they are fun summer time fare, and enjoying them with my son makes it all the better!

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

Originally Posted by looooob

just wait a few years. I had 5 years of no movies, but now with a 6 year old boy we've been to Ironman, Indy and a few others this summer...with Hulk and DArk Knight on the schedule

these types of movies aren't my favorite genre, but they are fun summer time fare, and enjoying them with my son makes it all the better!

Thanks. It helps knowing it's not a life sentence!

In all honesty, being a parent is totally worth it--but there are major adjustments you have to make to your lifestyle.