Celebrity Apprentice

[fredr123]

Originally Posted by Prottotype

What happened to Tito? Where was he this week?

http://mmajunkie.com/2008/02/01/the-...on-assignment/

Originally Posted by mmajunkie.com

However, early in the episode, host Donald Trump announced that Ortiz, just two weeks removed from his successful stint as a project manager, would be gone for the challenge, tied up at “a fight.“


It wasn’t his fight, of course. Based on the show’s October-November filming dates, Ortiz was most likely at an Oct. 26 “ShoXC: Elite Challenger Series” event, which took place at the Chumash Casino in Santa Ynez, Calif. There, Ortiz cornered his fighter Aaron Rosa, who suffered a second-round submission to Jared Hamman in the night’s main event.

[OILFAN #81]

Trump is being sued for $4 billion dollars (his fortune is worth $2 billion). If he were to lose this suit, he'd be filing for bankruptcy.

http://tvguide.sympatico.msn.ca/TVNe..._trump_sued_SZ

[looooob]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

It's the best Apprentice since season 1.

For one thing, since it's all for charity and not really a serious job audition this time, you don't really mind the inaninty of some of the low brow tasks they're assigned, unlike in previous seasons.

Also, since it's not a job audition, the peculiar personalities and peculiar Trump decisions, the latter often designed to keep the strangest people around rather than the best candidates, are now irrelevant. If anything, Trump has been playing this unusually straight-up instead of trying to create entertainment.

Piers Morgan is turning into something of a perfect villian. He also appears to be a genuine A-hole. That's always great for an audience which keeps tuning in wanting to see him finally get whacked.

Great season. It might have rescued the franchise after the disasterous LA diversion of last year.

Cowperson

agree

an interesting angle is that (at least several of the celebrities on the show, maybe not the Omorosa type) most of these guys obviously don't need to win this thing, and there may be times when it makes more sense for them to leave. that was the case with Gene Simmons. Neither Simmons nor Trump could back down in that boardroom because of the impact it would have had on their image/brand

great episode last night, a bit of a shame the men are unravelling as they seem to have the majority of the strong and or compelling and or interesting characters

Piers Morgan is good TV right now

[KevanGuy]

WOW, what an episode tonight. This has by far been the best season I can remember. Omarosa having a 'melt-down' like that on TV is crazy. I guess you cant argue she doesnt make for good TV but what a low life piece of crap.

[Kjesse]

Its so entertaining, I can't be sure if its real or not.

The first episode I watched was the espionage one, and that was very entertaining.

In the boardroom tonight (after the central park horse chariot competition) with the feel-good-hey-we're-all-in-this-together team, I picked up on something though that probably shows the editing is giving either Piers or Omarosa too much credit.

Trump comments to the losing team that if the other team had lost, they all knew who he'd fire, and they all nodded their heads in agreement.

I would have said given what I saw on the last few episodes that Omarosa was more likely to go, between Omarosa and Piers.

But Trump's comment suggests Piers would get fired, because so far Omarosa has been in the boardroom many times and has escaped the axe.

Why its obvious to everyone in the show, who don't at that point know the editing, but not to us, shows how powerful editing can be.

Side note: A friend of mine spent superbowl at the Playboy mansion. He met Jerri Manthey, the "bitch" from the 2nd season of Survior. Guess what? She was sweet as pie.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by KevanGuy

WOW, what an episode tonight. This has by far been the best season I can remember. Omarosa having a 'melt-down' like that on TV is crazy. I guess you cant argue she doesnt make for good TV but what a low life piece of crap.

. . . . . exceeded only by Piers.

Piers Morgan has the profile of a common playground bully, afraid and insecure.

He treats the gigantic country music star and the two fighters with deference yet verbally abuses the tubby Italian, the short Baldwin and the women. Not hard to figure that one out.

Yeah, Omarosa is a piece of crap . . . . . but she probably had all of America kicking Piers in the balls right beside her. I didn't think she had a meltdown either. She looked pretty much in control.

And she did get to him. Pushed the right buttons. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

If you can't handle MiG's, don't fly in MiG Alley.

Piers can raise a lot of money though. Both have to go.

The "no fire" episode, however, might have demonstrated how milquetoast this could get in a real hurry without the two of them.

Cowperson

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

. . . . . exceeded only by Piers.

Piers Morgan has the profile of a common playground bully, afraid and insecure.

He treats the gigantic country music star and the two fighters with deference yet verbally abuses the tubby Italian, the short Baldwin and the women. Not hard to figure that one out.

Yeah, Omarosa is a piece of crap . . . . . but she probably had all of America kicking Piers in the balls right beside her. I didn't think she had a meltdown either. She looked pretty much in control.

And she did get to him. Pushed the right buttons. Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy.

If you can't handle MiG's, don't fly in MiG Alley.

Piers can raise a lot of money though. Both have to go.

The "no fire" episode, however, might have demonstrated how milquetoast this could get in a real hurry without the two of them.

Cowperson

Piers really didn't play that smart at all. He played that task to win and ended up screwing up a real chance to get rid of someone that I find to be completely useless in Omarosa.

He should have called a couple of his celebrities to come in and take the ride, and banked his larger ones for a later task.

Personally I would have tanked it.

At the end of the day, the Apprentice is not about project management skills, its about results, and truly, Omarosa never gets results, the game is about selling, she can't sell, the game is about leadership, she can't lead, the game is about teamwork, she really devours teams.

For all of the bad things about Piers, he can sell, he gets results and his team wins, especially when he plays the leadership role. The results at the end of the day are all that matters.

I'm convinced that in a boardroom brawl, Omarosa gets out right pasted, because there's nothing that she can do to justify her survival, Piers on the other hand for his personality, does get results.

[Flames89]

While I agree with your strategy Cap, the problem is - he wants to win because it is for charity. It is like Trace said, he is not there on behalf of himself. Therefore Piers is out to win - and didn't want to play losing game to win. Can't fault him for wanting to win every challenge. (think I said "win" enough in this hack-kneed paragraph?)

I don't think Piers is so bad. He treats Trace with respect not because he is some country star (do you really think he gives a damn?) But because Trace comes up with great ideas and is a ringer! In the last couple episodes, Piers has no problem giving credit where credit is due.

Last night - well it was kind of dry. Hate Baldwin and Omarosa, so dissapointed they won. Think it was luck (or gods-fortune, depending on your belief that the lord would send good vibrations to a former coke-head who is reformed before say, uh, peace on earth) that they chose an easy to display product and that Trace was way better than I thought he would be (without practice). The firing was pretty straight-forward.

... too bad Omarosa lives another day. She is so useless and vile ...

Love Carol on so many levels. Trace is the man.

[CaptainCrunch]

From a business perspective, I'd have to put Baldwin up there with Piers, and I honestly think its going to come down to those two, because when they manage projects they win, and frankly the whole rivalry is good T.V.

I have a lot of respect for Baldwin because business wise, the guy just plain asks great questions, and he comes up with solid solutions.

Piers on the other hand thinks so far outside of the box that its amazing.

Alt has put herself firmly on the hot seat, she skimmed under the radar, made the huge lie last night, but now she's facing off against Piers who's formidable on a lot of different levels, and LL who may have slept walked through last nights challenge, but Trump really loves the guy.

On the other side, Omarosa is really on a team thats going to kill and eat her. Baldwin doesn't get down to a personal level in terms of arguing, Trace is way to calm, and she didn't really ad much last night, and hasn't done much other then being the catty bitch. But I think her course is coming to an end. She's not a great leader, she knows dick about business, and shes a flavor of the month.

Its either her or Carol next week.

[Flames89]

Good point, forgot about Carol's moves last night ... she's just such a great combo of hotness, personality, and intelligence (except for the Yashin part).

Yah, I don't see her going to the end. I just like her. Baldwin bugs the hell out of me - though he does ask good questions. And for some reason Trump likes the guy. Anyway, I think he is an idiot who is luckier than he is good - and that can only last so long. Hell, he already wanted to give up? Can he really last through the end since Trump saw him have that attitude?

Piers is a dancer, though he has been a little unhinged the last couple shows. I see no reason why he shouldn't last. He may annoy the hell out of some people. But I don't see a real weakness - aside from jackassery. He is smart, understands business, and can read people. What makes him even better though is his ability to complement others when they have done well, and give credit where credit is due - a passive form of leadership.

Otherwise, I would like to see Trace in the final few. He is shocking in his ability to lead a team and marketing awareness. If the horse-buggy thing wasn't just about phone-your-richest friend, then they would have CLEANED up.

Tito is pretty good to. Great foot soldier, haven't seen him lead enough. Lennox is a poor man's Tito - in this competition.

[Flames89]

Some Alt appreciation:

[CaptainCrunch]

Thats her side boob!!

How about this one, does this make you hot, it shouldn't because its my side boob!!

[killer_carlson]

I tape the show on my PVR and then fast forward whenever Omarosa is on.

Even though this was for charity and we're looking at bordernline A list stars, I would still be pissed if I was a celebrity and had someone like Omarosa on the show with me, taking personal shots at me and cutting down my celebrity when hers is that she is a reality TV failure. It's the pot calling the kettle black.

Gene Simmons played it the best when he dominated the first few shows and then purposely got himself kicked off. He left on a high.

Lennox looks good.\

Trace looks awesome out there.\

Carol Alt looks good too.

Omarosa though is an absolute disgrace. I am 100% with Piers on this one.

[albertGQ]

Wow. Good show last night. I am definately rooting for Pierce.

Man, he detroyed Comatosa last night!

[Jagger]

I've only watched the last two shows but I've been pleasantly surprised by this show.

Piers was great to watch last night. When he went back to the boardroom, after that pathetic 'reality star' questioned his sexuality, and kissed the cowboy on the cheek was priceless. That was an awesome response. I thought Tracy whatshisname was going to cry.

I'll definitely be watching the remainder of this show now. I'm also rooting for Piers.

[CaptainCrunch]

I'm assuming that Omarosa was booted last night, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

[Dan02]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

I'm assuming that Omarosa was booted last night, I didn't get a chance to watch it.

yes and it was a awesome episode. This has been by far the most entertaining apprentice. Although i fear without omarosa V. Piers there might not be as much to entertin me. But then again i thought the show was doomed as soon as they kicked Gene Simmons off.

[Jagger]

Originally Posted by Dan02

Although i fear without omarosa V. Piers there might not be as much to entertin me.

Piers and Baldwin have something going on too though. Here's hoping that they end up as the final two.

[troutman]

I have my doubts on how much "reality" we are seeing; much of it seems very scripted, or directed at least.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by Jagger

Piers was great to watch last night. When he went back to the boardroom, after that pathetic 'reality star' questioned his sexuality, and kissed the cowboy on the cheek was priceless. That was an awesome response. I thought Tracy whatshisname was going to cry.

The reaction of Trace Adkins to the kiss was the most surprising and bizarre part of the entire episode.

He was genuinely disturbed, humiliated . . . . think up a bunch of other words and you'd probably be right. Yeah, I thought he was going to cry - seriously - as well.

You'd almost think there has to be a story behind that to cause that kind of reaction . . . . . . or maybe he's just not a New York feller and therefore not used to being kissed by British dickheads.

Death to Piers!!!

Cowperson