Porn & the impact of its availablity

[gottabekd]

Another interesting, related, story:

Is Pornography A Catalyst of Sexual Violence? - Recent research suggests the opposite is true

In a paper presented at Stanford Law School last year, he reported that, after adjusting for other differences, states where Internet access expanded the fastest saw rape decline the most. A 10 percent increase in Internet access, Kendall found, typically meant a 7.3 percent reduction in the number of reported rapes. For other types of crime, he found no correlation with Web use.

And, in all fairness:

That, of course, is only a theory, and the evidence he cites is not conclusive.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by photon

Lol I've never been to that, is it actually interesting, or just creepy?

I found it pretty lame - lots of booths all selling the same lotions and potions. Nothing really to get excited about.

[urban1]

Part of the problem is the material that is available on the internet. This isnt little Johnny finding his dads Playboy magazines or finding the parental code for the TV and watching the Hustler channel.

Click on this link to find a list of movies banned in Canada but which you could likely find clips of on the internet with relative ease.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive...71canada1.html

Take a walk thru an adult video store and youll find entire genres based on concepts that most people couldnt even imagine existed.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Who's fault is that? The parents for allowing the computer to be put in those places. If they are interested in protecting their kids, the computer needs to be in a family area like the living room. You don't need to sit with them every second. Just walk by every few minutes.

Little Johnny is a lot less likely to get into schiesser videos if Grandma is about to walk into the room and catch him.

This doesn't seem like a very realistic scenario to me. People have things to do -- they can't be peeking in on their kids every 5 minutes. Especially teenagers. How much time did your parents spend keeping close tabs on you when you were 12, 13 or older? Weren't you ever home alone? And Grandma? She don't live here.

[urban1]

Thats the job of a parent. You have more important things to do than raising your kid?

Is it that hard to put a computer in the living room instead of the kids bedroom?

Why not limit their internet usuage to only a couple of hours a nite how you would with TV?

Install internet filters - which arent fool proof but thats why you take all the other steps.

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

This doesn't seem like a very realistic scenario to me. People have things to do -- they can't be peeking in on their kids every 5 minutes. Especially teenagers. How much time did your parents spend keeping close tabs on you when you were 12, 13 or older? Weren't you ever home alone? And Grandma? She don't live here.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

This doesn't seem like a very realistic scenario to me. People have things to do -- they can't be peeking in on their kids every 5 minutes. Especially teenagers. How much time did your parents spend keeping close tabs on you when you were 12, 13 or older? Weren't you ever home alone? And Grandma? She don't live here.

I've actually heard they advise putting computers in common areas of the house now so that Jane/Johnny can't hide out and watch pr0n or get stalked by weirdos without others at least having a chance of noticing. Something I've seen in a lot of new houses is a "homework" room for the kids. Desks for all the kids and the computers are placed here in full view of everyone.

Won't stop em all but I'm willing to bet Websense / Sonicwall has some sort of home edition....

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

This doesn't seem like a very realistic scenario to me. People have things to do -- they can't be peeking in on their kids every 5 minutes. Especially teenagers. How much time did your parents spend keeping close tabs on you when you were 12, 13 or older? Weren't you ever home alone? And Grandma? She don't live here.

As others have said - doesn't have to be every 5 minutes. Just put it in the living room where the screen is visible.

My parents worked pretty hard to keep tabs on me when I was 12 and 13. Which was good, because looking back it turns out I was a pretty stupid little kid! I resented them for it at the time, but boy do I appreciate their efforts now I'm an adult.

[chris lindberg]

Limewire has the most absolutely disgusting porn material (underage, child porn)

Why is this stuff even available?
Don't they know who is doing the downloading and uploading?

[photon]

If someone's going to be doing something like getting highly illegal porn, how dumb do they have to be to download and share it on a p2p network???

They can tell who's uploading and downloading easily.. It's probably a matter of resources though, why go after one guy who's downloading it when they can target the people who make and widely distribute it. Probably more effective at cutting it off at the source.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by urban1

Thats the job of a parent. You have more important things to do than raising your kid?

Feeding the kid and looking after the other ones is also pretty important.

Hey, I'm with you -- it'd be a hell of a deal if every family could keep such close tabs on what their kids are up to, but it is simply not realistic to think "the computer in the living room" is going to be a solution to much.

The TV and the VCR were always in the living room. How many posters on this board didn't see a porno until they moved away from home?

[Flames2007FIRE IT UP]

Another point that makes life tougher is the wireless world. With a Palm pilot or cell phone you can access everything on the internet, I think the computer in a common place is good idea but very easy to get around.

[urban1]

As a parent you cant control what goes on outside of your house for the most part. But you can control what goes on inside your house. Just cause your kid may figure out how to get around some internet controls doesnt mean that you shouldnt even try.

And if you dont care about your kid watching porn, then watch an episode of Dateline NBC To Catch a Predator and you should be concerned.

[photon]

How does a kid seeing some porn relate to hebephiles?

EDIT: Nevermind, I think I see what you meant (the controls to restrict or at least monitor who they are chatting with I think)

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by urban1

As a parent you cant control what goes on outside of your house for the most part. But you can control what goes on inside your house. Just cause your kid may figure out how to get around some internet controls doesnt mean that you shouldnt even try.

And if you dont care about your kid watching porn, then watch an episode of Dateline NBC To Catch a Predator and you should be concerned.

Laugh. Well, I don't have kids, but I'm all for keeping them away from the smut for as long as possible, and doing pretty much whatever you can to achieve that.

My point is that "solutions" like "put the tv in the living room" simply don't work for most people in reality and accusations like "it's bad parenting" are not helpful, but we hear the same thing all the time.

[OracleOfCalgary]

I think it is no coincidence that an explosion in STD's among teens has gone hand-in-hand with the increasing ease of access to pornography and the increasingly casual attitude towards sex. Just wait until your kids gets syphilis or HPV and then it won't seem so harmless.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by OracleOfCalgary

I think it is no coincidence that an explosion in STD's among teens has gone hand-in-hand with the increasing ease of access to pornography and the increasingly casual attitude towards sex. Just wait until your kids gets syphilis or HPV and then it won't seem so harmless.

Argh argh argh back in my day grumble grumble grumble.

Who said it's harmless?

[Ro]

Originally Posted by RougeUnderoos

Laugh. Well, I don't have kids, but I'm all for keeping them away from the smut for as long as possible, and doing pretty much whatever you can to achieve that.

My point is that "solutions" like "put the tv in the living room" simply don't work for most people in reality and accusations like "it's bad parenting" are not helpful, but we hear the same thing all the time.

I don't have kids, but I couldn't agree more.

If you're going to criticize parenting, it should be based on how parents handle the situation WHEN their kid views pornography, not IF. There needs to be clear, respectful moral values regarding porn instilled in one's children right from the beginning, and there needs to be some kind of open discussion about it.

[psicodude]

I don't want to get in the middle of this debate, but wanted to give a possible solution to the porn surfing problem for the parents out there. I work for the Catholic School Board, and this is what we suggest to our parents to use at home: http://www.k9webprotection.com/

It will never take the place of good parental supervision, but it does an excellent job of internet filtering. Best of all, it's 100% free.

Just thought I would throw this out there.