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Old 10-27-2007, 12:29 AM   #21
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I'm sure truthiness will prevail! US is actually hilariously arrogant sometimes.

I agree, their economy is in the pooper and the bowl is filling up by the day. That said, a lot of what we've seen with regards to the USD has actually been self imposed by the Fed to lessen the value of China's Trillion USD account holdings. Lowering the value of their dollar internationally takes away China's strangle hold on the US.
Okay, but how long can they keep that up? China has them by the balls because they were dumb enough to put their balls in the vice.
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Old 10-27-2007, 01:37 AM   #22
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I doubt if the U.S could beat Iran in a war right now, and if they did go to war ith Iran, they would most certainly lose Iraq. It would be total chaos.

Does anyone know what type of relationship Iran has with China these days?
Lots of business done with these two countries, not to mention Russia does a lot of business with Iran as well
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:11 AM   #23
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I doubt if the U.S could beat Iran in a war right now, and if they did go to war ith Iran, they would most certainly lose Iraq. It would be total chaos.

Does anyone know what type of relationship Iran has with China these days?
Depends what your definition of winning is, theres no doubt in my mind the Iranian army would be throughly decimated but if you consider winning establishing and maintaining control over the region then i agree would be damn impossible for the US to do.
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Old 10-27-2007, 12:07 PM   #24
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I doubt if the U.S could beat Iran in a war right now, and if they did go to war ith Iran, they would most certainly lose Iraq. It would be total chaos.

Does anyone know what type of relationship Iran has with China these days?
Depends on the objectives of said war. I read somewhere that the objective of the United States in a War with Iran would be to decimate Iran's economy, its infrastructure, decapitate its Government and force Iran into a long and expensive rebuilding process, while removing their Nuclear Program.

Yes right now, Iran's army is the strongest in the Region, but their airforce is pretty much second rate, and their air defense is similar to Iraq's before the war which isn't bad by middle eastern standards, but at least a couple of generations old by American standards.

The American's if they were going to fight a war would bomb the hell out of Iran, hit it with all of the cruise missiles and long range artillery rounds in its inventory, send in whatever special forces units to create resistance to the rebuilding project, and then continue to bounce the rubble for several months.

There's no way that the American's would commit ground troops en-masse to Iran, even though from an armored point of view, the Iranian's have nothing that could stand up to M1-A1 tanks in the battlefield.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:09 PM   #25
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With the US military engaged in a war that has lasted longer than its participation in WWII, they are starting to draw themselves thin. Troop exhaustion, massive financial burdens, a public that is tired of the war and no real end in sight makes me think that they would be mighty foolish to try and hold down insurgents in Afghanistan and Iraq while starting something new in Iran.

There's a million theories to justify the authenticity of the report "leaked" from the pentagon, but the fact that it exists shouldnt be a shock to anyone. The US would be foolish not to have a rough game plan for all likely scenarios including an invasion of Canada, Mexico, Iran, where ever. It would also be foolish to think that Canada doesnt have similar plans stored away to defend an invasion from the US.

It's military strategy and other than running, doing push ups, yelling and blowing things up, they have a lot of down time when not engaged in a war. Lots of time to cook up 'what if' scenarios.
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Old 10-27-2007, 02:58 PM   #26
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That website does not look credible at all.

Just another PCT (Paranoid Conspiracy Theorist) site, whose writers try to present their own speculations as fact.
I don't know if the story is true or not, but it's hardly paranoia or a conspiracy theory to suggest that the current administration would cook up some bogus reason to attack a middle eastern country.

Anyway, I have too much faith in the American people and government (outside of the White House) and hell, maybe even the military itself, to believe that they'd fall for this again.
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Old 10-27-2007, 05:21 PM   #28
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Depends on the objectives of said war. I read somewhere that the objective of the United States in a War with Iran would be to decimate Iran's economy, its infrastructure, decapitate its Government and force Iran into a long and expensive rebuilding process, while removing their Nuclear Program.

Yes right now, Iran's army is the strongest in the Region, but their airforce is pretty much second rate, and their air defense is similar to Iraq's before the war which isn't bad by middle eastern standards, but at least a couple of generations old by American standards.

The American's if they were going to fight a war would bomb the hell out of Iran, hit it with all of the cruise missiles and long range artillery rounds in its inventory, send in whatever special forces units to create resistance to the rebuilding project, and then continue to bounce the rubble for several months.

There's no way that the American's would commit ground troops en-masse to Iran, even though from an armored point of view, the Iranian's have nothing that could stand up to M1-A1 tanks in the battlefield.

Just a side note.


Iran has no refinery ability to change it's oil into gas/deisel. To win a war with Iran all you need to do is tp stop shipments of fuel to Iran.

That is why Iran is trying to build nukes so they can at least cause as much distruction as possible on Israel before they go down. Hence the need to actually bomb Iran if a conflict arose.
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