Why is Geniside the only option?

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally Posted by llama64

Iraq was about securing Middle East oil and boosting the American Economy (aka Military/Industrial complex). All the junk about terrorists and freedom for the Iraqi people was all sugar to make it palatable to the people. Not sure why this is even debated anymore.

Having talked to a few Americans, I tend to believe they are willfully ignorant. The information is there, it's not like people have really gone out of their way to hide it.

People are conditioned to be ok with killing their enemy. To make an enemy, you define the difference between your group and the group that you are fighting against (Christians vs Muslim, Serbian vs Croat, etc). Once they are the enemy, they are dehumanized in to a nice black and white morality situation, which is palatable for people en mass.

For an interesting take on why the Iraq war took place, take a look at this youtube vid. It's a short film based on the book "The Shock Doctrine" by Naomi Klein. The concept is pretty simple: push through your agenda by keeping the people in a state of shock, there by reducing opposition. It's a tool that has been used throughout history and continues to be used now by those in power (political orientation has nothing to do with it).

Even though I'm a liberal I have to disagree about why the Iraq war was started. I think it was genuinely about spreading democracy. It would be very beneficial for the United States to have the Middle East move into the first world. If a successful Democracy ever managed to function in Iraq, it would be a huge boost to spreading Democracy throughout the Middle East.
All this talk about securing oil and getting contracts for Halliburton as the main goal of the war seem a little far-fetched. I think Bush and his neo-conservative clan genuinely thought that this would spread democracy. That said, I also believe it was a generally horrible idea with little regard for what would happen once Hussein was disposed.

[HOZ]

Originally Posted by Weiser Wonder

Even though I'm a liberal I have to disagree about why the Iraq war was started. I think it was genuinely about spreading democracy. It would be very beneficial for the United States to have the Middle East move into the first world. If a successful Democracy ever managed to function in Iraq, it would be a huge boost to spreading Democracy throughout the Middle East.
All this talk about securing oil and getting contracts for Halliburton as the main goal of the war seem a little far-fetched. I think Bush and his neo-conservative clan genuinely thought that this would spread democracy. That said, I also believe it was a generally horrible idea with little regard for what would happen once Hussein was disposed.

The one and only level headed comment in this thread.

Did anyone see Greenspan's comments about the reporting on his book? He said thatthe war SHOULD have been about oil.

Anyways, had the USA, Bush, Cheney and Halburton really wanted all that Iraqi oil they didn't need a war to get it. They just had to ask the French how they were getting it and do the same.

I heard that the UN had a good scam going too!

[Bobblehead]

Originally Posted by MoneyGuy

I've been scanning off-topic thread titles for a few days and click on those that look interesting and I've been wondering what the heck a genicide is. Finally I look this thread and now I know. Ha!

And I thought this was going to be about a Genstar type developer.

[metallicat]

Originally Posted by Jetsfan

The Khoran is very specific when it comes to dealing with "non-muslims" or "infidels" First, to convert them. If they will not convert to Islam then you kill them with a sword stroke to the neck. Killing is killing and it goes both ways for all religions.

I'm waited for this post to be contested. No way does every Muslim believe that.