Term papers?

[rockstar]

Hey Peter_12, which Poli Sci paper are you writing? I also have one due for Monday, it's a rough one!
7 pages down, 5 to go...

I shouldn't be on this forum right now!

[lucid]

Originally posted by peter12@Nov 13 2004, 05:29 PM
I want to go into law or some sort of foreign relations gig, Political Science is one of the best degrees for that sort of thing. I personally love learning about political stuff, languages, international development, I just hate writing research essays on it.

Exactly!

In response to your earlier question, I'm not a History major... It's an IR degree for me.

[calf]

Originally posted by mightyfire89@Nov 13 2004, 05:23 PM
Please don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to be a knob to all you poli-sci people (or people with post-secondary education in general...I only went as far as finishing high school), but what does a degree in this field do for you? What sort of job are you looking at that requires this? Also, if this is your chosen field of study and you genuinely require it for future employment, wouldn't the fact that it pains you to do a term paper on it be a sign that perhaps this is the wrong path for you?

Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Good on all of you for furthering your education...I wasn't built for the classroom. It's just that I've always wondered about this.

There's a difference between going to school for education and going to school for job training.

I can't speak as/for a social science major, but with what you learn there, it's about thinking critically, communication skills, research skills, etc, which are valuable "out there". One won't have to write a term paper, but those aformentioned skills are quite valuable in different careers. (in a nutshell)

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by mightyfire89@Nov 13 2004, 05:23 PM
Please don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to be a knob to all you poli-sci people (or people with post-secondary education in general...I only went as far as finishing high school), but what does a degree in this field do for you? What sort of job are you looking at that requires this? Also, if this is your chosen field of study and you genuinely require it for future employment, wouldn't the fact that it pains you to do a term paper on it be a sign that perhaps this is the wrong path for you?

Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Good on all of you for furthering your education...I wasn't built for the classroom. It's just that I've always wondered about this.

I did it because I liked it, plain and simple. Some of the term papers and a couple classes I had to take I didn't like, but on the whole it wasn't torture, it was fun. I knew from day 1 that getting my degree (English) wasn't likely to get me a job when I was through but that didn't matter at the time and doesn't really today.

Ironically enough it did actually get me a job but that's beside the point. I learned a fair bit, had lots of fun, went to a building that contained thousands upon thousands of women between the ages of 18 and 25 every day for four years, partied it up, and hopefully having a degree will in the long run means I make more money than I would have without it.

My only regret is Student Loans. I had rent, food and tuition covered by parents but I still went big on student loans and blew it all and now I'm paying them back. I didn't even really need them, but getting them did make it a lot more fun.

Certainly no offense taken on your question, btw.

[300spartans]

Got one due next Saturday which may seem like a long ways away but not when you work full time

Gonna try to start the thing and get at least 2 pages done for tonight...

[peter12]

Originally posted by ROCKSTAR@Nov 13 2004, 05:42 PM
Hey Peter_12, which Poli Sci paper are you writing? I also have one due for Monday, it's a rough one!
7 pages down, 5 to go...

I shouldn't be on this forum right now!

I'm first year, so 201 with Wilson. Gay marriage, cons and lib values, defend a position. I shouldn't have taken a year off, all my essay skills have disappeared.

[HelloHockeyFans]

Engineering! No term papers!

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by peter12@Nov 13 2004, 09:51 PM
Thats what I do too, but writing papers is such a huge part of Poli Sci it's kind of unavoidable.

When I did Poli-Sci at U of C there were a ton of papers, 1-2 big 'uns every class. If you're ever under the gun, dishonesty is the best route B)

Find a book that has your topic, read the appropriate chapter, summarize it in 10-15 pages.

The hard part is then going to the library to find 15 other sources on your topic and getting them to back up your story via footnotes (remember not to use the original in your footnotes/bibliography!). Simply go through each book's glossary/index at the back for any specific facts you need to source.

Hey, what can I say, in my early years I partied and couldn't be bothered to get a decent education :P

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by mightyfire89@Nov 13 2004, 11:23 PM
Please don't take this post the wrong way, I'm not trying to be a knob to all you poli-sci people (or people with post-secondary education in general...I only went as far as finishing high school), but what does a degree in this field do for you? What sort of job are you looking at that requires this? Also, if this is your chosen field of study and you genuinely require it for future employment, wouldn't the fact that it pains you to do a term paper on it be a sign that perhaps this is the wrong path for you?

Again, I'm not trying to offend anyone. Good on all of you for furthering your education...I wasn't built for the classroom. It's just that I've always wondered about this.

It teaches you about power, who has it, how it works, and how to get it. I guess its up to the specific BA holder as to what they do with that information.

I consider my BA Poli-Sci the best possible choice I could have made. To each their own, of course.

[300spartans]

BA GRST here so I can tell you irrelevant stuff like how that isn't the mask of Agamemnon hehe

Your paper writing method is so true though, I've done that a few times myself

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by 300spartans@Nov 14 2004, 02:17 AM
BA GRST here so I can tell you irrelevant stuff like how that isn't the mask of Agamemnon hehe

Your paper writing method is so true though, I've done that a few times myself

Blame Flames_Addiction on that one, he gave it to me! I've been made!

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Nov 14 2004, 02:32 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Nov 14 2004, 02:32 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-300spartans@Nov 14 2004, 02:17 AM
BA GRST here so I can tell you irrelevant stuff like how that isn't the mask of Agamemnon hehe

Your paper writing method is so true though, I've done that a few times myself

Blame Flames_Addiction on that one, he gave it to me! I've been made!

[/b][/quote]
When you do a Google search, that is the image that comes up.

[300spartans]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction+Nov 14 2004, 02:40 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (FlamesAddiction @ Nov 14 2004, 02:40 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Blame Flames_Addiction on that one, he gave it to me! I've been made!

When you do a Google search, that is the image that comes up. [/b][/quote]
Far enough.

Unlike Troy, the location was well-known. Schliemann cleared the gate of the city and then started digging within a strange circle of stones inside the entrance. He found 19 graves and a treasure of grave goods worth more than the cache at Troy. One of them was a golden death mask. Thinking he had found the grave of the king Schliemann said, "I have gazed on the face of Agamemnon!"

Despite all his luck at finding treasure, Schliemann was consistently wrong on his facts. Later archaeologists would date the treasure at Mycenae as being two hundred years before the time of Agamemnon and the treasure of Troy over a thousand years before Homer's Trojan War.

http://www.unmuseum.org/troy.htm

[FlamesAddiction]

I didn't realize that.

But just so I didn't just go looking for links for nothing, this is what I was about to post:

http://www.sikyon.com/Mykinai/Art/art_eg01.html

http://www.culture.gr/2/21/214/21405m/e21405m5.html

[Agamemnon]

Soooo... you've gone and debunked my existing death-mask without providing me with a new one? Thanks... thanks a lot.

Next time keep your 'knowledge' to yourself... avatar-ruiner!

:P

[300spartans]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Nov 14 2004, 02:51 AM
Soooo... you've gone and debunked my existing death-mask without providing me with a new one? Thanks... thanks a lot.

Next time keep your 'knowledge' to yourself... avatar-ruiner!

:P

I'm so happy my five years of university education could bring you this moment

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by 300spartans+Nov 14 2004, 02:56 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (300spartans @ Nov 14 2004, 02:56 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agamemnon@Nov 14 2004, 02:51 AM
Soooo... you've gone and debunked my existing death-mask without providing me with a new one?# Thanks... thanks a lot.

Next time keep your 'knowledge' to yourself... avatar-ruiner!

:P

I'm so happy my five years of university education could bring you this moment [/b][/quote]
You should be, gosh knows when you'll need it again!

Zing!

(though I totally would have loved to take GRST, that would have been sweet.)

[Maritime Q-Scout]

hmmmm a few comments as a whole, I read this thread then went on, and came back

1. yeah, I'm in the same boat, I need to start typing, but I'm hungry and cold... I'll do that in a minute


2. Much prefer papers than exams. Paper you can write, argue, and support, and exam it's a question that you don't know the wording, what it's gonna be, and have to study everything. Paper is a concentration of what you know/are comfortable with.

3. presentations are great. I wish I got marked on them, but I don't :angry: then again I've been public speaking/debating for 10 years now so they're no sweat. Last presentation I gave was on how to arrange intergovermental policy, and mettings. The topic my group was given was "Airline Saftey" or something like that. We proposed Air Marshalls on flights. Then who we'd have to contact, discuss, etc. And how. Then Q&A from the rest of the class. I was immediately appointed to be the presenter

Got a question about why the public wasn't consulted at any point.

My thought "Oh sh*t, we didn't consult the public" my reply "with union consultation, of both pilot, flight attendant, and ground crew we're getting a broad perspective. Also the media would be very critical of the proposal and this is were we'd get the public input, it's just not feisable to have a town hall meeting in every Canadian city, or atleast every Canadian city with an airport"

Q: Why not tell the media upfront about the proposal, why wait until after discussing with RCMP, CSIS, FAA, NTSB etc?

Q: Well we need to explain what the air marshall is. Right now it's a proposal we don't know if we're gonna go through with it, and if we do how? Will they have guns, will the guns have regular bullets, or rubber ones? Will they use tazers instead? We want to avoid the public jumping to conclustions... I dunno about you but when I think air marshall I think Walker Texas Ranger with a Shotgun in the airplane, we want to avoid that!

See, presentations are fun

4. Poli Sci degree, got me into grad school, grad school gets me into job, job gets me money to retire, I retire and be happy. Therefore Poli Sci degree makes me Happy, and isn't that what you really want in life?

5. Drink you need it otherwise you go insane

[calf]

Originally posted by Maritime Q-Scout@Nov 13 2004, 09:54 PM
4. Poli Sci degree, got me into grad school, grad school gets me into job, job gets me money to retire, I retire and be happy. Therefore Poli Sci degree makes me Happy, and isn't that what you really want in life?

Don't mean to pick on you there jonny (or hijack this thread further), but does anyone else have a problem with this statement?

Seriously, I don't want to be going through school, working like a dog, etc so I can enjoy my money when I'm 72 years old. I think life (and money) should be enjoyed in the present (while being conservative enough to have money in the future). Retirement shouldn't be the goal, but just part of the process, no?

[Maritime Q-Scout]

Originally posted by calf@Nov 14 2004, 01:03 AM
Don't mean to pick on you there jonny (or hijack this thread further), but does anyone else have a problem with this statement?

Seriously, I don't want to be going through school, working like a dog, etc so I can enjoy my money when I'm 72 years old. I think life (and money) should be enjoyed in the present (while being conservative enough to have money in the future). Retirement shouldn't be the goal, but just part of the process, no?

pick away, doesn't bother me none... and we can BOTH hijack the tread... woo-hoo

I was actually just being an a** I don't honestly think that. I took Poli Sci because I enjoy it, and I'm taking Public Administration because again, I enjoy it (mind you I love saying I'm taking Public Admin so I don't have to deal with the public )

I've always been a pay now, reward later kind of guy. I don't like paying for something after the fact, doesn't seem as sweet. So I guess to an extent the statement is accurate, but I want to enjoy like now as well... see point #5