Kanye vs. Fiddy cent spet 11/07

[The Goon]

Darn, I was hoping Chesney would've beaten them both. That would have been pretty funny.

[HOOT]

Originally Posted by albertGQ

Didn't 50 say if Kanye outsells him, that he'd stop making albums? He'd still be making music, but he'd stop releasing solo albums. Anyone else hear the same?

Yes but he quickly took it back saying he was "joking"...more like reality slapped him on the side of the head.

[StrayBullet]

Originally Posted by The Goon

Darn, I was hoping Chesney would've beaten them both. That would have been pretty funny.

It wouldn't be surprising if Kenny Chesney ended up with more sales. Country music listeners actually buy music whereas the majority of hip-hop listeners are always looking for a way to get it for free.

[MonsieurFish]

Originally Posted by HOOT

Yes but he quickly took it back saying he was "joking"...more like reality slapped him on the side of the head.

DAMN. i thought he was serious... i hate both of these guys but i was considering buying kanye west's album just to get fitty to stop making albums. how that would be so nice....

[Jiggy_12]

Kanye's meltdown backstage at VMA's

Poor Kanye

[Bill Bumface]

Originally Posted by StrayBullet

I'm not sure how much you listen to rap music or if you do, who you're into. I never like to debate about music because everyone is entitled to their own musical tastes. However, I will say that Kanye has progressed the rap game in terms of production. He's easily Top 3 producers in hip-hop, right now. He pushed the envelope in the early 2000's with the sped-up 45 samples that the likes of Just Blaze, Hitmakerz, Timbo and Polow have used. The College Dropout and Late Registration are he's basically given Common 2 albums that have put him on the pop culture map.I'd like you to point out the songs that you have found, "bland". ...curious to hear.

I listen to rap quite a bit, although I must admit I find it tough to find the non-mainstream stuff without sifting through a lot of crap, so I don't have the hugest collection of non-commercial rap.

Let's take Gold Digger for example though. Everyone seemed to love that song, and it just put me to sleep. His delivery, the producing, the lyrics... *yawwwnn*

I'll probably get ripped on for this, as they are associated with gangster rap, but three of my favorite producers are Timbaland, Dre, and Scott Storch. I find Timbaland quite diverse and very talented at what he does. Dre revolutionized rap producing in my opinion, although I admit he's stuck with pretty much the same formula ever since. Storch pretty much rides the coat tails of Dre's formula, but he does a damn good job of it and puts out some great beats, regardless if you like the rappers or lyrics that end up on top of them.

For lyrical content and delivery I really like Dert, Talib Kweli, Common, Dead Presidents, Blackalicious, Outkast (Aquemeni and ATliens).

Someone just gave me the new Kanye CD to listen to, so which tracks would you recommend for me to give him another chance?

[Juventus3]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

Kanye's meltdown backstage at VMA's

Poor Kanye

Say what you want about him, but he's right. He's more qualified to win than most that do. And to let Britney perform the open when he REQUESTED to do it? MTV is so cookie cutter is makes me puke.

[Jiggy_12]

Originally Posted by Juventus3

Say what you want about him, but he's right. He's more qualified to win than most that do. And to let Britney perform the open when he REQUESTED to do it? MTV is so cookie cutter is makes me puke.

It comes off as another rich and famous celebrity just wanting more. Who cares if he didnt win some silly VMA award? Nobody judges people based on what VMA's they did or didn't win. This little tirade however, says much more about the person than any award won or lost would say.

[Juventus3]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

It comes off as another rich and famous celebrity just wanting more. Who cares if he didnt win some silly VMA award? Nobody judges people based on what VMA's they did or didn't win. This little tirade however, says much more about the person than any award won or lost would say.

Fair enough to think that, but if you don't support artists that are temperamental, you'd be best to delete the music folder off your computer and throw out all your CD's.

[Neeper]

I got Kanye's album and so far, I do like it. It's much darker it seems this time around. I was never really a fan of Fiddy. He got lucky and got a hot Dre beat that put him over the top on his first single. ANYONE could have been a star with Dre's In Da Club beat. Heck, even In Da Dome was hot.

[StrayBullet]

Originally Posted by Jiggy_12

It comes off as another rich and famous celebrity just wanting more. Who cares if he didnt win some silly VMA award? Nobody judges people based on what VMA's they did or didn't win. This little tirade however, says much more about the person than any award won or lost would say.

He was on Hot97 in New York on Tuesday explaining his whole tirade. No one is really saying it's okay, but then again, I can't really say he's wrong for being emotional. He says that MTV was giving him the run around and promising certain things provided he'd show up to the MTV Europe Awards.

www.hot97.com

[StrayBullet]

Originally Posted by hulkrogan

I listen to rap quite a bit, although I must admit I find it tough to find the non-mainstream stuff without sifting through a lot of crap, so I don't have the hugest collection of non-commercial rap.

Let's take Gold Digger for example though. Everyone seemed to love that song, and it just put me to sleep. His delivery, the producing, the lyrics... *yawwwnn*

I'll probably get ripped on for this, as they are associated with gangster rap, but three of my favorite producers are Timbaland, Dre, and Scott Storch. I find Timbaland quite diverse and very talented at what he does. Dre revolutionized rap producing in my opinion, although I admit he's stuck with pretty much the same formula ever since. Storch pretty much rides the coat tails of Dre's formula, but he does a damn good job of it and puts out some great beats, regardless if you like the rappers or lyrics that end up on top of them.

For lyrical content and delivery I really like Dert, Talib Kweli, Common, Dead Presidents, Blackalicious, Outkast (Aquemeni and ATliens).

Someone just gave me the new Kanye CD to listen to, so which tracks would you recommend for me to give him another chance?

First off, I will say that I love Timbo. Wait... allow me to retract that. I LOVED Timbo. He's come out with some of the dopest over the last 15 years. From Missy's first 2-3 albums, Aaliyah, Ginuwine, Tweet, Bubba SparXXX, Jay-Z, etc. (I could totally go on for days!) He even gave us two of last summer's hottest beats - SexyBack & Promiscuous. His recent activity has skewed my opinion about him and I will say that now he's in the main spotlight, he's just gotten annoying. From beefing with the mentioned, Scott Storch and allowing Justin Timberlake to curse Prince, and the goofy, unecessary shenanigans when appearing on TV, it's time for him to go back to the studio and stay out of the screen.

Now that my Timbaland tirade is done, we'll go back to Kanye...
Oddly enough, Tim actually does some of the drums on Kanye's new album. The big single that is gonna push Kanye at the club and radio (perhaps not so much in Canada) is "Good Life". The song that has some of the baddest keys is "Flashing Lights". "I Wonder" is dope to, however he comes kinda soft on the mic. All summer I've been listening to "Can't Tell Me Nothing". Now, at first listen back in February, I thought to myself how boring the song was, but then I gave it a few listens and realized the beauty in the song - Kanye is basically calling himself out. Describing how he's changed or hasn't changed since the fame and money. You may or may not feel the same way about it, but I also found the song empowering after awhile. It's probably the slow Jeezy sample coupled with the eerie vocal, I'm not sure, but I got hooked. I'd probably say the only throw away is the Mos song. I found it boring and out of place in the tracklisting. Everything else is Kanye doing what he does - he's progressing as a producer, a rapper and most importantly, an entertainer. It's pretty much the album of the year for 2007. ....so far.