Looks are everything

[Dion]

Originally Posted by habernac

and women like dating ugly men? didn't think so....

Define ugly.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally Posted by Dion

Define ugly.

[Flashpoint]

Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze

The EDM version of Mclovin?

[habernac]

sorry firefly, that remark was more directed at the article, not yourself. Physical appearance is important. I'm no supermodel (or whatever the male equivalent of that is) but I certainly don't look like the poor guy in the picture posted.

[FireFly]

Well I haven't had a real date in so long, I might have to start taking a look at guys like the one in that picture....

[lifer]

Originally Posted by fotze

You're the one rating Table's "point".

Yes, evaluating his point, as in, his statement. I was not speaking of his penis. I guess I should be more careful with my homonyms (and here I am using the root homo to respond to these accusations...).

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Dion

Define ugly.

Originally Posted by Eddie Bronze

Eddie, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself!

[Dion]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Eddie, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself!

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Dion

Looks can also fade. For example your wife (not suggesting you) is disfigured in a car accident. Does this mean you drop/divorce her because she's no longer attractive?

Absolutely! (jk)

Thats one of those extreme cases, but looks are a major, major factor to what brought you to your wife... since then, personality, experience, emotion, children(?) have brought the two closer so that when looks fade, there's enough there to keep the flame burning.

[Eddie Bronze]

Originally Posted by ken0042

Eddie, you shouldn't be so hard on yourself!

I can only wish I had that much hair!

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by FireFly

While some women are that shallow, not all women are. "Can't buy me love" and all that.

Notice I said "(or other positive qualities)"... everyone has their muse. Money, humor, power, intelligence...

Men are more likely to overlook these things for looks... women are more likely to overlook looks for these things... yes, everyone is different to an extent, but that seems to be the biology of men and women.

[I-Hate-Hulse]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

The EDM version of Mclovin?

Lets not forget his Vancouver cousin:

[Zarathustra]

Women are attracted by status and social value more than anything. Alpha males will always have the have the highest of each of these qualities. The great part of being a man is the ability to become highly attractive to women through increase of social value, while women mostly have to rely on genetics to attract men. I can easily remain attractive to women in my 50's, while most women cannot be attractive to men in their older years.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

Absolutely! (jk)

Thats one of those extreme cases, but looks are a major, major factor to what brought you to your wife... since then, personality, experience, emotion, children(?) have brought the two closer so that when looks fade, there's enough there to keep the flame burning.

Should have been clearer, my apologies. Not married at this moment. Lot's of lady friends though.

Of course looks are a factor. The personal qualities also have to be there at the same time too. She could be a Cindy Crawford but if she doesn't have the personal qualities i'm looking for she's history.

[SebC]

Of course, if you're speed dating looks will be important. They can be assessed more quickly then anything else.

[Thunderball]

Originally Posted by Dion

Should have been clearer, my apologies. Not married at this moment. Lot's of lady friends though.

Of course looks are a factor. The personal qualities also have to be there at the same time too. She could be a Cindy Crawford but if she doesn't have the personal qualities i'm looking for she's history.

Heh... I was talking hypothetically, but hey, its all good.

I agree, doesn't have to be Cindy Crawford, but it can't be Roseanne either, no matter how nice the personality.

[Azure]

Why, whats wrong with Roseanna?

[Dion]

Originally Posted by Thunderball

Heh... I was talking hypothetically, but hey, its all good.

I agree, doesn't have to be Cindy Crawford, but it can't be Roseanne either, no matter how nice the personality.

Who says it can't be Rosanne. Do we discard someone because they are overweight?

[soulchoice]

Personally speaking, I need the following when i date someone. Attractive, fit(in the sense she takes care of herself) and a personality. I have friends that I get along great with, but do not do a thing for me physically speaking, thus I would never date them nor look at them as anything more than a friend. Hence I would never even consider being with someone if i didnt find them physically attractive, no matter what they are like as a person.

Anyone I have ever been with in a serious relationship started with a physical connection first and foremost. Then as I got to know them, I realized we were on the same level mentally and personality wise, so it grew from the start.

Just because someone is good looking doesnt mean there is a greater chance of either a lack of personality or intelligence. I think that is a terrible assumption for anyone to make. Just as bad as thinking that someone not as attractive is automatically going to be filled with charisma and smarts. It is possible to have looks, personality and mental smarts.

[GreenLantern]

I believe Good Charlotte said it best when they claimed "girls don't like boys, girls like cars and money!"

I have discovered this myself through out the years. Is a girl looking at personal wealth any less shallow then a guy looking strictly for physical beauty?

The happy medium is where long lasting relationships are built, in my opinion, and it is a rarity based upon the initial attraction factors.