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Old 08-02-2007, 12:11 PM   #21
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I for one, welcome our new Russian overlords.


Hmmm, that line is somewhat less funny when talking about heavily armed, expansionist governments than when talking about giant ants or unusually clever rodents.
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Old 08-02-2007, 12:30 PM   #22
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Fuel-cell subs with the ability to dive below the icebergs would be perfect. I've read those things are like holes in the ocean, almost completely undetectable by surface vessels, especially to the Russian navy, which is completely trained to detect the louder nuke subs.

I was reading a rumour that the Chinese managed to surface a couple of fuel-cell subs right in the middle of a US carrier group doing exercises off of Taiwan.
Diesel electric subs are quieter then Nuclear subs because of lower plant noises. The Victoria class submarines are quieter then a first flight 688 attack sub. But non nuclear boats also have a shorter range and are far slower so the speed advantage and patience advantage lies with an SSN.

The rumor is true, a Song class diesel electric SSX surfaced after getting into torpedo range of the U.S.S. Kitty Hawk without being detected. The Song is now being upgraded to use the AIP, but as far as I know none of the 6 new submarines of the Song enhanced have been delivered. The Sub that carried out the successful attack was a conventional diesel submarine.

I'm betting the Admiral in charge of the Kitty Hawk battle group saw a big black mark attached to his record.

http://www.sinodefence.com/navy/sub/039.asp
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Old 08-07-2007, 02:22 AM   #23
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:05 AM   #24
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http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/World/20...401056-ap.html

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Coming home to a hero's welcome Tuesday, the famous Russian polar scientist who led the risky voyage did not mince words in responding. "I don't give a damn what all these foreign politicians there are saying about this," Artur Chilingarov told a throng of well-wishers.

"If someone doesn't like this, let them go down themselves...and then try to put something there. Russia must win."

"Russia has what it takes to win. The Arctic has always been Russian."
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Old 08-08-2007, 11:11 AM   #25
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If you have an economy barely larger than Mexico's
I thought Russia has the third largest emerging economy, behind China and India?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:12 PM   #26
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Well, they just showed a story on Global TV. Apparently at least part of this was a hoax. Some of the video they showed was from the 1997 movie "Titanic."

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Old 08-11-2007, 11:16 PM   #27
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Well, they just showed a story on Global TV. Apparently at least part of this was a hoax. Some of the video they showed was from the 1997 movie "Titanic."

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Considering who was behind the hoax I'am surprised they went as far as Titanic.

Hell....20,000 Leagues Under the Sea would be more their speed me thinks.

On a somewhat serious note...if this report is true this would be copyright infringment, no?
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:29 PM   #28
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So, I guess Santa Claus is Canadian?
There are Inuit people in northern Russia too eh?
Canada should make a big super prison in the Arctic!
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:47 PM   #29
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Old 08-12-2007, 03:22 AM   #30
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Well, if it ever comes down to the crunch, I guess we'll see who our real friends are. Somehow in today's political climate, I don't see the United States, the UK, France or any other of our allies remembering their debts. They'll each be playing hardball for their own greedy interests.

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Old 08-13-2007, 11:39 AM   #31
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Denmark is getting crazy too

I think that with all these countries getting involved, the only thing that can happen is profit sharing. Bah!
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