2007 NFL Draft Prediciotn Contest

[oldschoolcalgary]

not a huge surprise - it'll be interesting to see how good johnson is though in a couple of years...

[Flickered Flame]

Lions draft Johnson 2nd overall.

[Clever_Iggy]

Browns take Joe Thomas - poor Joe Thomas, he'll be injured in 2 seasons.

Browns are terrible.

[Bobblehead]

I think it's funny that Detroit takes a WR again.

And OT should help the Browns. Some protection can really help the QB situtation.

[Bobblehead]

Brady Quinn - holy cow is he sliding.

The 'Fins just picked Ginn and ESPN is still talking about how good a fit Quinn would be with the Dolphins.

I'm just watching until my Niners pick.

[FlamingLonghorn]

Johnson is a can't miss unless he goes through injuries. I watched him throughout his last 2 yrs of college because I just randomly watched a weekday night game early in his sophmore year and he floored me. every chance I had after that I watched him play because at least 2 times a game he would come up with catches that were just mind blowing. He's got no character issues. I would take a $1000 bet that he will be in the HOF after his career is over....

He's Randy Moss without the problems...

[Bobblehead]

Mel Kiper doesn't seem to fit in - he looks like a 70's Goodfella

[Clever_Iggy]

Mel Kipper made some prediction years and years ago about a player being a bust. He was the only one that said he would be a bust and he's been riding that ever since.

He has about as much access to the insides of the NFL as I do.

Brady Quinn sliding and sliding is just more proof of him being a fool - "Brady Quinn WON'T get past Miami".

[Antithesis]

Quinn just got picked by Cleveland after they swapped picks with the Cowboys.

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Final Standings:

Flickered Flames - 20
transplant99 - 20
Pagal4321 - 19
Super-Rye - 16
moon - 15
Saint Troy - 13
Sowa - 11
rubecube - 9
Flames in 07 - 8

[Flickered Flame]

Why the Dolphins passed on Quinn is beyond me. Ginn better turn into oneo hell of a WR not to mention Beck. He better a good QB in a few years.

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Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Why the Dolphins passed on Quinn is beyond me. Ginn better turn into oneo hell of a WR not to mention Beck. He better a good QB in a few years.

Sort of was my thought when the Birds passed on Leonard, Weddell, etc for Kevin Kolb. If this FO did not have the drafting record they do I would've been furious.

[Super-Rye]

I didn't do too bad, thought I did alot worse.

ATM I'm not very happy with the Titans drafting. They're taking a chance on some kids, and a couple of them already have off-field problems. I do expect them to move a FS now for some WR help, they have like 7.

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by Flickered Flame

Why the Dolphins passed on Quinn is beyond me. Ginn better turn into oneo hell of a WR not to mention Beck. He better a good QB in a few years.

Why? turned out OK. It's just media hype that makes people think he's good enough to justify a #9 pick. Ever watch him in a big game? He disappears, except when he throws pics. He's slightly better than average, and if he didn't play at ND and wasn't a media darling nobody would wonder why. He's a slightly better than average prospect, but that's about it.

EDIT: it turned out OK for Quinn, not Miami. Drafting a tiny WR who will likely be a solid KR/PR as a first round pick is kinda silly.

[moon]

Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

Brady Quinn sliding and sliding is just more proof of him being a fool - "Brady Quinn WON'T get past Miami".

That isn't proof at all since everyone had him going to Miami at 9 after the other teams slipped. What it shows is how stupid the Dolphins are.

Despite all the Quinn haters out there he is a legit prospect that got hurt like many guys do because he stayed one year too long and now people had too much time to nitpick his game. Leinart last year dropped to ten because of the same reason and he turned out okay so far.

I am not saying that Quinn will be the second coming of Montana but he is much better than an "average prospect" and does a lot of things much better than Russell. I think he is a much safer pick than Russell and will end up having a much better career. I would rather have a QB that has some mechanical issues that resulted in a few poorly thrown balls than a guy that consistent has shown he can't read college defenses and hasn't shown the ability to run anything close to a NFL offense.

[Clever_Iggy]

Originally Posted by moon

That isn't proof at all since everyone had him going to Miami at 9 after the other teams slipped. What it shows is how stupid the Dolphins are.

Despite all the Quinn haters out there he is a legit prospect that got hurt like many guys do because he stayed one year too long and now people had too much time to nitpick his game. Leinart last year dropped to ten because of the same reason and he turned out okay so far.

I am not saying that Quinn will be the second coming of Montana but he is much better than an "average prospect" and does a lot of things much better than Russell. I think he is a much safer pick than Russell and will end up having a much better career. I would rather have a QB that has some mechanical issues that resulted in a few poorly thrown balls than a guy that consistent has shown he can't read college defenses and hasn't shown the ability to run anything close to a NFL offense.

You have got to be kidding me right? If he would have come out last year he would have been considered the 4th best QB prospect, not the 2nd best. After Young, Leinart and Cutler are finished being drafted, someone would have picked him up, but there's no way he would be in a better situation.

His slide has nothing to do with staying a year too long. It's about teams being scared of him not having any potential left combined with bad circumstance of what teams needed between picks 10-21.

As for Quinn having mechanical issues - I have no idea what youre talking about. Quinn ran a high powered offense in Notre Dame but his accuracy was a question - not mechanics - and has always existed.

My post was about how Mel Kipper Jr. is a know-it-all moron that makes bold statements such as "there is no way" and "I guarantee" and "this is the safest pick/move/trade in the draft." Telling the TV audience that "there is NO WAY Quinn gets past Miami" shows that the media really has no idea what's going on. Kipper is just the front runner because his face was on ESPN every 30 seconds for the past 2 months talking about the draft.

[moon]

You have got to be kidding me right? If he would have come out last year he would have been considered the 4th best QB prospect, not the 2nd best. After Young, Leinart and Cutler are finished being drafted, someone would have picked him up, but there's no way he would be in a better situation.

I think he may have gone ahead of Cutler depending on which team was drafting either, but yes he wouldn't have gone higher but would have had less questions.

His slide has nothing to do with staying a year too long. It's about teams being scared of him not having any potential left combined with bad circumstance of what teams needed between picks 10-21.

The fact that people thought he didn't have any potential left is a result of staying one year too long. had he left early people would have takled about the potential he still had to grow.

As for Quinn having mechanical issues - I have no idea what youre talking about. Quinn ran a high powered offense in Notre Dame but his accuracy was a question - not mechanics - and has always existed.

Jaws, who is as good a QB analyst as anyone in my opinion, stated that a lot of his accuracy problems were caused by some mechanical issues that could be improved by coaching. That is why I stated that. No guarantee that it can or will be fixed but I will defer to Jaws on that issue.

My post was about how Mel Kipper Jr. is a know-it-all moron that makes bold statements such as "there is no way" and "I guarantee" and "this is the safest pick/move/trade in the draft." Telling the TV audience that "there is NO WAY Quinn gets past Miami" shows that the media really has no idea what's going on. Kipper is just the front runner because his face was on ESPN every 30 seconds for the past 2 months talking about the draft.

Okay I agree with you there then. I thought you were singling Kiper out as being particularly stupid over the rest of the "experts."

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Originally Posted by Clever_Iggy

My post was about how Mel Kipper Jr. is a know-it-all moron that makes bold statements such as "there is no way" and "I guarantee" and "this is the safest pick/move/trade in the draft." Telling the TV audience that "there is NO WAY Quinn gets past Miami" shows that the media really has no idea what's going on. Kipper is just the front runner because his face was on ESPN every 30 seconds for the past 2 months talking about the draft.

I like this statement. The more post draft comments I read from Miami, the more I realize that the Phins never really were interested in Quinn. In fact, Mueller, from various reports, attempted at least 3 times to move up into the late first round to draft Beck.

[Clever_Iggy]

Okay I agree with you there then. I thought you were singling Kiper out as being particularly stupid over the rest of the "experts."[/QUOTE]

Ya - they all have the same information and are just trying to out analyze each other. I have no problems with predicting who is going where and what teams needs are because Im a football junkie - but this draft (with dropping to 22, Green Bay taking that DT instead of offensive help or a CB, and Indy shoring up its offense further when their defense was horrid and they lost 5 starters) proves that the media is making slightly better guesses than the average joe.

NFL teams go to great lengths to posture, lie, and strategize in order to maximize their own draft. Much of it is secretive. But the media claims to cut through all that because they have a "source close to the draft room".

Mel Kipper is just like all the others, except his plastic mug was in my face all the time and instead of suggesting picks or leaving room for differing opinions, he uses conclusory statements - "The Vikings WILL pick" etc...

[Bobblehead]

From Peter King's MMQB Re: Mel Kiper jr

"It's my hair, and I have nothing negative to say about it.''
-- ESPN's Mel Kiper Jr., on his puffy coiffed 'do, to The Baltimore Sun.

Keyshawn Johnston at the draft:

"This is a great pick. We need another wide receiver," Johnson gushed while working as a draft analyst for ESPN. "This guy is much like me. I'm going to teach him how to play from the point of attack."

Carolina Panthers AFTER the draft:

"We appreciated the contribution of Keyshawn in his season with the Panthers," coach John Fox said. "He brought us high production, but at this time, we are in a situation in which we have a number of young receivers and thought this was the right time to make the decision."

49ers need a posession receiver. Keyshawn, give us a visit.