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Old 08-05-2004, 08:16 AM   #21
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Although, point taken,
that is the area that you see the biggest discrepencies between increase in take home and increase in gross. After that they will be within a couple percentage points, I would imagine.

Correct. The area between roughly $40,000 and roughly $60,000 seems to me to be the area of greatest tax acceleration. Again, the only point I was making.

It is a somewhat silly way of putting it. Put another way, a 58% salary increase, sees a 50% raise in take home pay.

Tough crowd!!

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Old 08-05-2004, 09:04 AM   #22
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No problem -- It's a fairly common misconception about our taxation system.## I actually had this discussion recently with a family member who was convinced that having an income in a higher tax bracket would result in considerably more taxes and even once turned down a promotion because of this belief.##

If this was the case, you wouldn't see many people take jobs that earn $35,000 to $40,000... (and there are a lot of them in this country!).

There is one caveat to this whole thing, and I've seen it happen. The formulas used for calculating withholding are not as robust as the actual tax formulas. I believe the withholding formulas take a more simplistic approach and apply a flat percentage on your whole income depending on which withholding bracket you are in. Therefore if your raise just passes the threshhold, you can get a paycheque that is less. You do end up with more money overall once you fill in your tax return, but it is possible to end up with less on a paycheque by making more.

I think any Canadian who has gone from $40,000 to about $60,000 in income is fairly astonished at how little they advance in terms of the money they take home.

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I guess that's a matter of perspective.

Take someone who earns $40,000 a year, living in Alberta. He gets takes 16% on the first 35,000 for a total of $5,600. On the other 5,00 he gets taxed at 22% or 1,100. The provincial rate is 10% making that 4,000. The total taxes paid are 10,700 with a net income of 29,300.

Now take someone makig 60,000 in the same province. 5,600 in taxes paid on the first 35,000 and 5,550 and the other 25 grand. Lets not forget the provincial taxes at 6,000. The total amount paid in taxes is 17,100 and a net income of 42,900.

That's a difference of over a thousand a month, clear. That would make quite a differnce in my book, unless my math is completely off. Seeing as how I just got back from vacation, that is entirely possible. [/b][/quote]
You forgot the Provincial exemption in the province of Alberta. Its roughly $14K. You also didn't use the Federal exemption in your calculations

If you take into account the exemptions, the $40K earner's after tax income is $32,280 and the $60K earner's after tax income is $43,700 for a difference of $11,420. Which is just under $1000 a month
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Old 08-05-2004, 09:31 AM   #23
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[You forgot the Provincial exemption in the province of Alberta. Its roughly $14K. You also didn't use the Federal exemption in your calculations

If you take into account the exemptions, the $40K earner's after tax income is $32,280 and the $60K earner's after tax income is $43,700 for a difference of $11,420. Which is just under $1000 a month
Hmmmm . . . . . I used the exemptions.

In 2002, I believe it was roughly 13,333 or something which is reduced to 10% for the provincial calculation if I remember right. The basic exemption on federal tax is reduced by 16% in that taxation year and, if I remember right, was about 7,500 or so. I don't have the form with me so I'm not prepared to get into an argument about it right this second.

Its possible I was out on CPP and unemployment deductions as I was using my own for that year and I am obscenely into the maximum bracket. Like Cheese.

Again, I'm not an accountant so you might be able to talk me into it.

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