Star Trek XI

[Flame On]

Great news. Funny the differences in thought. I thought DS9 was the biggest pile of pap around. Worst acting of the series' and characters. Plot line only got good at the end with the big war.
Voyager wasn't half bad I thought.

[Tron_fdc]

MATT DAMON

MATT DAMON

/Team America World Police reference


Couldn't they find someone else to play Kirk? I mean the man was one of the most egotistical womanizers to ever grace the silver screen.....and they want Matt Damon to play him? For some reason I just can't see that knob bedding the 3 breasted green alien whilst drinking klingon corn whiskey.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Voyager wasn't half bad I thought.

I agree- once they got past what I called "Gilligan's Island Syndrome." For the first season or two many episodes featured a way to get home- today. Then at the end something went wrong and they were stuck in the Delta Quadrant. Throughout any given episode you knew they weren't getting home because if they did, that would be the end of the show.

And Star Trek VIII would have been better if Berman hadn't decided that he was going to re-write Roddenberry's version of our future history. (Changing Cochrane from being Centarian to Human; making first contact with Vulcan instead of Alpha Centari.)

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

MATT DAMON

MATT DAMON

/Team America World Police reference


Couldn't they find someone else to play Kirk? I mean the man was one of the most egotistical womanizers to ever grace the silver screen.....and they want Matt Damon to play him? For some reason I just can't see that knob bedding the 3 breasted green alien whilst drinking klingon corn whiskey.

For some reason I thought Ben Affleck would work a lot better as Kirk... I can really see him in the bell bottom Trek pants...

[Burninator]

Originally Posted by Tron_fdc

MATT DAMON

MATT DAMON

/Team America World Police reference


Couldn't they find someone else to play Kirk? I mean the man was one of the most egotistical womanizers to ever grace the silver screen.....and they want Matt Damon to play him? For some reason I just can't see that knob bedding the 3 breasted green alien whilst drinking klingon corn whiskey.

I gained some respect for Matt Damon after I saw The Departed. But what do I care/know I've never seen a whole episode of Star Trek let alone one of the movies.

[Flame On]

I don't have a problem with Matt Damon, good in several films.

[Nehkara]

J.J. Abrams talks about his decision to direct Star Trek.


However, he told the festival audience, "I can say that when the script came in it was so well written, it was so emotional, it was fun, and big and I found myself unable to not direct it!"

Double negatives notwithstanding, he continued, "I couldn't give it up. I think it's going to be great. If in my gut I felt there was nothing else to offer, I wouldn't do it. It's not a business decision, I would rather take no money and do something inspiring. I hope it ends up being both a really cool, original, emotional ride and comes from something that we're familiar with."

In the Wired article Abrams said something similar: "I'd feel like an idiot if I let someone else (direct) it." He also reiterated, "It's a little too early to talk about Star Trek, but I can't tell you how excited I am to do that (project). I'm thrilled."

He said the script is "clearly a fun, emotional and wild adventure," and he couldn't turn down the chance to take the helm. "This is going to be an incredibly fun movie. I can't believe that they're letting us do this," he exclaimed.


http://www.startrek.com/startrek/vie...cle/46515.html

[getbak]

Originally Posted by Nehkara

The movie will be based before the original Star Trek series.

William Shatner: Born 1931 - Star Trek: 1966
Matt Damon: Born 1970 - Star Trek prequel: 2008 (rumored to be set during Kirk's Academy days, long before he's a Captain)

I'm no mathematician, but that seems off.

Sulu's even better... George Takei: Born 1937 (6 years younger than Shatner) / Daneil Dae Kim: Born 1968 (2 years older than Damon)

[Flash Walken]

Originally Posted by Hack&Lube

The power of trek is in the storytelling and triumvirate of characters who are both friends and comrades standing up against kobayashi maru odds. Not the continuity of silly Trek cliche storylines or the technobabble that Trekkies so hold dear.

The space opera is about how human tenacity manages to eke out moral victory on the dangerous frontiers of space...ala Kirk Diplomacy.

Not how an engineer re-energizes the warp coils with a trans-poly-duotronic inhibitor while number 1 is busy saving the ship on the Holodeck and everybody beams out just in time to avoid the massive polarizing time dilation effect just in time for the Captain to make a speech about the Prime Directive as they send an inverted tachyon beam from the main deflector to just reset the show in the end.

Berman and Brannon Braga destroyed the Trek franchise with recycled plots, recycled technology, and recycled cliches. Enterprise was just Voyager in sheep's clothing. All the things they claimed about starting anew were quickly wiped away in 3 episodes. The phase-pistols suddenly became phasers by the end of the first episode. The shields were renamed "polarize the hull plating". Even the much vaunted lack of transporting to save the day was completely obliterated as they introduced the transporter within 3 episodes. Then Archer goes onto make the lamest speech in history "one day, there will be a directive, a Prime directive...". Trek should not be about name-dropping cliches, fan-service (via steamy decontamination) or technobabble deux ex-machinas.

I'm all for an absolute re-boot if neccessary to clean Trek of the dead waste that litters every incarnation of it touched by Berman and Braga. Fortuantely for DS9, Berman abandoned that to Ira Stephen Behr to work on Voyager so Behr had a clean slate to do whatever he wanted to do with DS9 and he created a good product. The first good product in years.

If you watch the original Trek, you see what a different beast it actually it. It has high aims and the solutions are human ones, not technologically based. As Gene Roddenberry originally pitched it, it was "Horatio Hornblower in Space". Now if you don't know what Horatio Hornblower is, I suggest you go track down some of the books about Hornblower or check out the great A&E miniseries staring Ioen Gruffuld (Mr. Fantastic from F4). In many ways, Master and Commander with Russel Crowe was based on literature of the same vein and era as Horatio Hornblower.

In fact, if you look at Master and Commander, it's very much Star Trek with Crowe and Bellamy basically taking on the Kirk and Spock roles. Star Trek needs to aim for that kind of story and legacy. Not the crap Paramount has put out with Berman at the helm for years.

I...love you?

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by getbak

William Shatner: Born 1931 - Star Trek: 1966
Matt Damon: Born 1970 - Star Trek prequel: 2008 (rumored to be set during Kirk's Academy days, long before he's a Captain)

I'm no mathematician, but that seems off.

Sulu's even better... George Takei: Born 1937 (6 years younger than Shatner) / Daneil Dae Kim: Born 1968 (2 years older than Damon)

It's not hard to make actors look younger. Especially someone like Damon who doesn't seem to age quickly.

Also, I should mention that no one reallys knows the storyline yet... although the rumours are all saying the same thing, it is possible that we have it wrong.

I would also like to add that in a couple of years the movie Magneto is coming out which will feature Patrick Stewart (66) and Ian McKellen (67) playing Charles Xavier and Eric Lensherr respectively. The movie is based on the early life of Eric Lensherr (Magneto) and his seeking revenge for his family's death at the hands of the Nazis.

Movie technology has come a long way.

[OutOfTheCube]

Originally Posted by Teh_Bandwagoner

Generations was kinda bland and I really didn't like Nemesis, but I agree that First Contact was a wicked ST movie. Patrick Stewart's classical training really stood out to me in that one. That one and Voyage Home are my favs.

Same here.

I've heard they're dropping any numerals or subtitles and just calling it 'Star Trek'.

I'm expecting a reboot of the series, similar to Batman Begins for Batman or Casino Royale for James Bond. My hopes aren't too high, but I AM excited for it.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by OutOfTheCube

Same here.

I've heard they're dropping any numerals or subtitles and just calling it 'Star Trek'.

I'm expecting a reboot of the series, similar to Batman Begins for Batman or Casino Royale for James Bond. My hopes aren't too high, but I AM excited for it.

That seems to be the general consensus.

It is also interesting to note that, in general J.J. Abrams specializes in (really good) TV shows... we may see him create a new ST TV series after the movie, if the movie is successful.

[Nehkara]

Originally Posted by Flame On

Great news. Funny the differences in thought. I thought DS9 was the biggest pile of pap around. Worst acting of the series' and characters. Plot line only got good at the end with the big war.
Voyager wasn't half bad I thought.

This is strange because most people I know who watch ST just love DS9. I thought the acting was superb... especially from Avery Brooks (Sisko), Rene Auberjonois (Odo), Colm Meaney (O'Brien), Alexander Siddig (Bashir)*, and Andrew Robinson (Garak).

One of the things to note is that the war was basically the last 4 or 5 seasons of the 7 seasons it ran...

* - I thought Siddig was very good in the latter half of the series. He was a little rough around the edges in the first few seasons.

[Vulcan]

Despite my name, I'm not a trekie but I've liked the Star Trek TV series. My favorite character is Quark followed by Q. What movies I've watched have been boring, hope this is better.