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Old 01-12-2007, 02:39 AM   #21
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:40 AM   #22
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If you are looking for the cheapest, best, reliable point-A-to-B-mobile. I would also check out a Toyota Yaris. It's much better than the echo it replaced, and you can get the hatchback for around $15k taxes and everything in.

If you want to spend around $20k (all in), I think the Civic is the better choice than the Corolla. However I think the new Civic digital dash is pretty damn fugly, and that alone could push me over to the Toyota. I would definately test drive both, though.

For $25k (all in), the Mazda 3 is *the* car to beat. I met one salesman who, personally, sold more than one a day of those cars.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:52 AM   #23
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My parents Toyota (2004 model i believe) Corolla is running quite well. Don't remember how many clicks they put on it, but it works quite well. We haven't driven a Honda since we sold a CRV when we bought a toyota... I'd say, personally, Toyotas are better than honda, except that lately, Toyota's design has been sub-par.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:56 AM   #24
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If you are looking for the cheapest, best, reliable point-A-to-B-mobile. I would also check out a Toyota Yaris. It's much better than the echo it replaced, and you can get the hatchback for around $15k taxes and everything in.
Can't say I am the biggest fan of that car, however this is based on renting it for a day or two only once or twice.

I'm a bit taller - by no means a giant, 6'3" or so - and I was crammed in that car. And it just wasn't really comfortable overall, even my wife mentioned the same thing (she's of average height). I also found it a bit harder to do a shoulder check (left shoulder) when driving as something always seemed to be in the way (ha, no not another car...but just the way the seat/window/etc was placed), and if I remember correctly I was not a big fan of the interface of all the stuff - speed, gas, etc.

That said, if you go and check it out and like it, I would say go for it. In the end its what you like and what works best for you.
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Old 01-12-2007, 07:57 AM   #25
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Oilerfan -- as a recommendation, why don't you see if you can rent a Corolla (as close to the year that you are wanting to buy) for a weekend or 2? That way you can test it out, and not have a pesky salesperson around you. Drive it in the city, out in the country, etc.
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Old 01-12-2007, 08:49 AM   #26
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As a testament to Toyota's reliability, my aunt has a 1989 Toyota Camry with >400,000km on it. I think the family wanted to drive the car into the ground because they've told us that they've probably changed the oil in it 3-4 times. That's right. And this car has been through 2 teenagers, and was vandalized once. Apparently, my uncle still drives the car from his house in Coral Springs in the NE, down to Fluor Daniel in the South.
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Old 01-12-2007, 09:58 AM   #27
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I would recommend looking at a Mazda 3. There was no compeition for the 3 in terms of styling, features, and reliability for the price. So I bought one last summer and am exetremely happy.

I wouldn't bother looking at Car and Driver or Motor Trend. They are more concerened about pleasing their sponsors and advertisters than delivering a fair review. Instead go pick up the Lemon Aid 2006: New cars book. Gives fair reviews on cars and has a lot of information about the process of buying a new car. My first car I used the Lemon Aid Used car guide and made the mistake of buying a low rated car and it ended up being quite the POS.
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Old 01-12-2007, 10:15 AM   #28
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I owned a Toyota Corrolla (Crapola) for a couple of years.

It was the worst vehicle I have ever had. I will never even consider buying another.

Transmission failed on me on the highway, replaced the clutch 3 times in a year and a half, many electrical gremlins, etc. You name it.

I imagine I had a lemon, but it has left me with a bitter taste about Toyota reliability. No thanks.
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Old 01-12-2007, 11:19 AM   #29
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It was apparently a "flaw". Crack in the block caused the whole works to go.
She probably was unlucky and got one of the defective cars that can come out of any assembly line. At least at 20,000km it would have been covered by the warranty.
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Old 01-12-2007, 01:42 PM   #30
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I have a 99 Corolla with about 195k kms. It has been a very reliable and dependable car and has been driven in all conditions. No question the Civic and Mazda 3 are sportier looking cars. But for economy I would probably still choose Toyota.

Every manufacturer makes the odd lemon. With a toyota your chances of getting a lemon are much lower than than with any other make. I know Mazda and Honda owners who have had much bigger problems than I've ever had with my Corolla.

The key in buying a car is do your research, figure out what's most important to you (appearance? economy? longevity? reliability?), and then test drive, test drive, test drive, as much as you can.
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Old 01-12-2007, 02:14 PM   #31
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the only negative about the Mazda 3 is that it's such a great car that it seems everyone in Calgary has one now
And it seems everyone has either a red, blue or charcoal grey one.
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And it seems everyone has either a red, blue or charcoal grey one.
Ha! I bought a white one, I've escape conformity....sort of.
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:13 AM   #33
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oilersfan...just wondering what you ended up doing.

This past Saturday, I just bought the '07 Honda Civic EX with navigation (perfect for me since I always get lost in the Bay Area)...I like it alot.
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Just finalized the purchase of an 07 Nissan Sentra on Saturday actually. I am glad I went with that over the Corolla in the end. I pick it up from the dealership tomorrow at noon. Thanks for asking! This feels like Christmas Eve when I was a kid, how the hell am I going to sleep tonight?!

Congrats on your purchase as well, that sounds great!
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:46 AM   #35
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Awesome dude! Congratulations on your purchase!! How is the Sentra in terms of price compared to the Civic/Corolla? Just out of curiousity, how much is the 07 Civic in Canada? Do u know?
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Old 01-23-2007, 12:57 AM   #36
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I was impressed with the price of the Civic, until I realized that most options were extra, and had to be paid for. The Sentra came fully loaded for only another 1600, so I don't know how closely the end price of a comparably equipped Sentra and Civic are.

The Sentra and the Corolla S were nearly the same price, about 24,000 each. I think a similar Civic was around the same, before options were added.

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Civic Coupe starting at 17,180
Civic Hybrid starting at 26,250
Civic Sedan starting at 16,980
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Old 01-23-2007, 01:41 AM   #37
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Thanks so much oilfan...I was just curious about the prices cuz my mom was considering buying one of the above mentioned cars.

K one more question, maybe Im dumb, but just wondering..what does the PANIC button on my key fob thing do????? Again, its a Honda Civic. Does it set off the car alarm or what? Anyone?
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:23 AM   #38
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It probably sets the horn on the vehicle to go off and on repeatedly. Unless you have an actual car alarm though, I think the only way the panic mode gets triggered is if you hit the button.
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Old 01-23-2007, 02:25 AM   #39
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Ah okay, thanks for the info..hehe I dont know a lot about cars as you can tell. I love hockey and know my stuff but I'm a typical girl when it comes to cars.
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Old 01-23-2007, 08:22 AM   #40
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We rented a corolla on a trip in December. It got the same gas mileage as our full-sized Five Hundred with only 1/10th the comfort and safety.
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