Hi, I'm a Mac. And I'm a PC

[tjinaz]

In the real world, as in business where more machines are purchased, PCs dominate. The shoe is completely on the other foot. You will never see a MAC outside of a graphic design shop. It is all PCs. As maligned as Microsoft is they work with hundreds of vendors and their code works with varying levels of success. Newer, faster cooler stuff comes out for PCs on a daily basis. Once you own a MAC it will stay in that state until it dies, you can't update it, you have to buy a completely new machine. MACs work on just the one hardware platform. Easy to streamline your code with only one set of hardware variables.

Why is it they never bring up gaming on these ads? If all you do is surf and play music get a MAC. IF you want to work in business or game or be able to build your own machine, or hot rod your existing machine get a PC.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Kobatuzzied

Why are macs so expensive?

That's not really true anymore.

[Go4Gold]

overplayed or I just watch too much TV.

I don't have a preference to either OS, but people forget how many Windows systems are out there, so obviously alot more issues will be made publicly known. On the other hand, MAC's had a huge vulnerability in their OS X, first release, and a buddy of mine that lives in Canmore has a shop fixing Mac's is making a killing. He says that when a Mac goes bad it never comes back.

I guess it all depends on individual experience.

[peter12]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

In the real world, as in business where more machines are purchased, PCs dominate. The shoe is completely on the other foot. You will never see a MAC outside of a graphic design shop. It is all PCs. As maligned as Microsoft is they work with hundreds of vendors and their code works with varying levels of success. Newer, faster cooler stuff comes out for PCs on a daily basis. Once you own a MAC it will stay in that state until it dies. MACs work on just the one hardware platform. Easy to streamline your code with only one set of hardware variables.

Why is it they never bring up gaming on these ads? If all you do is surf and play music get a MAC. IF you want to work in business or game or be able to build your own machine, or hot rod your existing machine get a PC.

That's a huge myth perpetrated by PC users. Most business software is current with Macs, like the Office Suite can be run on a Mac. Furthermore, with Macs running the new Intel chips you can actually dual boot and run Windows as your operating system, so you can run any software that a PC can. Macs also have no problem networking with other PCs.

Be this as it may, I'm glad that Macs are continuing to be a well-kept secret. We don't need the viruses that PC users have to put up with.

Gaming on a PC is lame. I bought a console for that.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

In the real world, as in business where more machines are purchased, PCs dominate. The shoe is completely on the other foot. You will never see a MAC outside of a graphic design shop. It is all PCs. As maligned as Microsoft is they work with hundreds of vendors and their code works with varying levels of success. Newer, faster cooler stuff comes out for PCs on a daily basis. Once you own a MAC it will stay in that state until it dies, you can't update it, you have to buy a completely new machine. MACs work on just the one hardware platform. Easy to streamline your code with only one set of hardware variables.

Why is it they never bring up gaming on these ads? If all you do is surf and play music get a MAC. IF you want to work in business or game or be able to build your own machine, or hot rod your existing machine get a PC.

That's the current state of things, but it could easily change. PC's have had year of advantage in the office and gaming world and it will take time for Mac to break into those markets. This doesn't mean it won't happen though.

I think the main reason the working world uses PCs is because everyone knows how to use them. It's easy for most new employees to adapt since they've been using PCs for years. That doesn't make them better, just easy.
As more and more make the switch to Mac, businesses will change as well.

As for gaming, I don't know enough about it, but I would think some of the things that make Macs great for graphic design, could also make them great for Games.

[Iowa_Flames_Fan]

PCs are more prevalent in business settings because for years the machines were cheaper. In educational settings (computer labs at Universities, and so on) there are a lot of Macs.

As for gaming, if you don't mind waiting a little while, all the good games come out for Macs eventually anyway. I don't do much of it, though. My Mac is for two things: work and Calgary Puck.

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

Easy to streamline your code with only one set of hardware variables.

why exactly is simplicity a bad thing?

[Frank the Tank]

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only people who bash Macs have never used a Mac. And by "use" I don't mean "play games on". If you used a Mac for your home accounting, music, pictures, video of your kids and whatever else you need a computer for, you'd never buy a PC again.

[V]

Can I run AutoCad on a Mac? And Microstation? That's all I really care about.

[loob job]

The blonde girl interviewing them in the one commercial is sexy as hell. She could sit me down one on one anytime.

[kermitology]

Why doesn't everyone just start using ubuntu?

Mac OS is just a unix port anyways.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by tjinaz

In the real world, as in business where more machines are purchased, PCs dominate. The shoe is completely on the other foot. You will never see a MAC outside of a graphic design shop. It is all PCs. As maligned as Microsoft is they work with hundreds of vendors and their code works with varying levels of success. Newer, faster cooler stuff comes out for PCs on a daily basis. Once you own a MAC it will stay in that state until it dies, you can't update it, you have to buy a completely new machine. MACs work on just the one hardware platform. Easy to streamline your code with only one set of hardware variables.

Why is it they never bring up gaming on these ads? If all you do is surf and play music get a MAC. IF you want to work in business or game or be able to build your own machine, or hot rod your existing machine get a PC.

This is true to a point. Macs exsist in many places you wouldn't expect them to. The oval office for one. A lot of lawyers use Macs. Scientists that use Unix based programs.

[TheDragon]

Doesn't Bill Gates own something like 30% of Apple, anyway? He was the primary reason they didn't go under back in the mid 90's. I'm sure he's just as happy knowing you're putting money in both of his pockets. I thought that was a big reason why people favoured Apple these days.

Personally, I will always favour a PC. This very PC I'm on has never once "broken," and has only required very minimal service and maitenance, and has last longer than some of my friends' Macs.

Plus, I could build a PC for a heck of a lot cheaper than I could ever even dream of buying a Mac.

I suppose it's all in what you know.

[Barnes]

Originally Posted by Dominicwasalreadytaken

Can I run AutoCad on a Mac? And Microstation? That's all I really care about.

Why not?

[Table 5]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

Aw c'mon Sugar-tits, settle down....

haha, gold jerry. gold!

[TheDragon]

Actually, I think you need Virtual PC on a Mac in order to run AutoCad. Either that, or I suppose you could try and install Windows on it. I did that once recently. It was like pulling teeth and incredibly frustrating, as Mac had about 0 instruction on how to do it.

Worst. Install. Ever... which only reaffirms my loathing for Macs.

[kevman]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the only people who bash Macs have never used a Mac. And by "use" I don't mean "play games on". If you used a Mac for your home accounting, music, pictures, video of your kids and whatever else you need a computer for, you'd never buy a PC again.

I don't think PC users bash Mac's for what they do (at least I don't) because they do it very well... PC users bach Mac's for what they can't do.

Untill recently Mac's simply wern't as powerful as PC's and thats why they don't have the latest and greatest games.

From a business perspective they're too expensive and they don't run very many programs. At least none of the programs we use like Accumap, Hysys and Stars.

I've also never factored the virus thing into the comparison because if you're not an idiot you can keep a PC running for many years without catching a virus.

Back on topic, I personally find the commercials very entertaining, much better than most.

A while ago I was looking at laptops and thought about getting a Mac but I ended up going for the $600 Toshiba Best Buy Back-to-School special. With a free printer, 15.4" screen, 1.6mhz Celeron processor, 1GB of ram, etc. it seemed like the better deal.

[fanforever1986]

Mac > PC.

[fanforever1986]

Originally Posted by kevman

I don't think PC users bash Mac's for what they do (at least I don't) because they do it very well... PC users bach Mac's for what they can't do.

Untill recently Mac's simply wern't as powerful as PC's and thats why they don't have the latest and greatest games.

From a business perspective they're too expensive and they don't run very many programs. At least none of the programs we use like Accumap, Hysys and Stars.

I've also never factored the virus thing into the comparison because if you're not an idiot you can keep a PC running for many years without catching a virus.


Back on topic, I personally find the commercials very entertaining, much better than most.

A while ago I was looking at laptops and thought about getting a Mac but I ended up going for the $600 Toshiba Best Buy Back-to-School special. With a free printer, 15.4" screen, 1.6mhz Celeron processor, 1GB of ram, etc. it seemed like the better deal.

At leat your arguement is rational. I agree the business world and PC's will be in bed for a long time to come...but there is a whole other aspect that people aren't paying attention to...well except apple.

It's all based off the saying "Once you go Mac, you never go Back." Apple knows that they have a better product in terms of performance than MS has, hell Gates has said that. Its now an issue of how Mac approaches their attack of the market. They're doing an excellent job with getting the attention of college students, with Edu. deals...If you walk into any campus bookstore in North America you'll see poster ads for iPods and Macbooks. Walking around the library you'll find that there are all the sudden a hell of a lot of macs being used by students.
The students of today are the business people of tomorrow, and if they're already using mac...theres a good chance that they'll continue the trend when they migrate into the workforce.

[Table 5]

hello handsome....