This is what you have to look forward to...

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Originally posted by Snakeeye@Oct 11 2004, 07:58 PM
The irony of this is that Moore himself is probably doing cartwheels over the free publicity FOX News is giving him.

Something tells me that guy hasn't done a cartwheel in about 30 years.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos@Oct 11 2004, 07:36 PM
Yeah but there is a guy on the left side (how clever) of the screen when Tucker Carlson is on and that guy disagrees with everything he says. They balance it out. Same with NBC I think (though I'm not too familiar with it).

I gotta admit I've never even watched FoxNews but by all accounts, they don't have a leftie on the staff. Is that correct?

Is Tucker Carlson that geeky looking dude in the bowtie?

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by CaramonLS@Oct 11 2004, 07:38 PM
Comparing Tucker Carlson to O'Reilly is like comparing Oprah to Springer. Tucker my be from the right, but he doesn't go off on a crazy tangent and then *CLAIM* to be an undecided voter like he did last week on the daily show.

Agreed Tucker is a moderate conservative. O'Reilly an undecided voter? Interesting...

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Oct 11 2004, 10:22 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Oct 11 2004, 10:22 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-RougeUnderoos@Oct 11 2004, 07:36 PM
Yeah but there is a guy on the left side (how clever) of the screen when Tucker Carlson is on and that guy disagrees with everything he says. They balance it out. Same with NBC I think (though I'm not too familiar with it).

I gotta admit I've never even watched FoxNews but by all accounts, they don't have a leftie on the staff. Is that correct?

Is Tucker Carlson that geeky looking dude in the bowtie? [/b][/quote]
Lol, yep, that's the guy swinging for you Dis! He's actually a pretty smart guy (duh, he wears a bow-tie). He's definitely one of my favourite conservative tv personalities. Very even-handed, very moderate, he's one conservative I wouldn't mind running things.

[FlamesAllTheWay]

Originally posted by Agamemnon+Oct 11 2004, 04:26 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agamemnon @ Oct 11 2004, 04:26 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-CaramonLS@Oct 11 2004, 07:38 PM
Comparing Tucker Carlson to O'Reilly is like comparing Oprah to Springer. Tucker my be from the right, but he doesn't go off on a crazy tangent and then *CLAIM* to be an undecided voter like he did last week on the daily show.

Agreed Tucker is a moderate conservative. O'Reilly an undecided voter? Interesting... [/b][/quote]
He said he supported the Iraq war, but if no WMD's were found he'd never trust the Bush administration again. So I guess that's where that comes from...

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Oct 11 2004, 10:27 PM
(duh, he wears a bow-tie)

Al Franken flashback! Circa 1987, and his brilliant impersonation (remarkably similar physically) of the late Illinois Senator Paul Simon.

That was a great season for SNL with the wide-open race for the Democratic nomination.

[MrMastodonFarm]

Originally posted by Agamemnon@Oct 11 2004, 04:27 PM
Lol, yep, that's the guy swinging for you Dis! He's actually a pretty smart guy (duh, he wears a bow-tie). He's definitely one of my favourite conservative tv personalities. Very even-handed, very moderate, he's one conservative I wouldn't mind running things.

I can't stand Tucker Carlson, he is such a pompus little ass.

Of course he is much much better then Novak, Novak is a putz.

[Bingo]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Oct 11 2004, 01:33 PM
And I don't see what ratings have to do with anything. Jerry Springer gets good ratings, as do gossip shows and other forms of cheesy entertainment.

Ratings have everything to do with it.

If FoxNews only showed completely one sided, highly slanted, pro right wing reports, commentators and news then why would a country split slightly to the left of 50/50 make it a ratings giant over CNN and NBC cable combined?

That doesn't add up.

I can buy some curiosity from the left from time to time, but not to the point that they drive up ratings.

Fox is different. I'll give you that, but maybe, just maybe between the unpalpable right wing screamers they are serving up a verion of the news that other media in the U.S. is fearful of providing.

[Agamemnon]

Originally posted by Bingo+Oct 11 2004, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bingo @ Oct 11 2004, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FlamesAddiction@Oct 11 2004, 01:33 PM
And I don't see what ratings have to do with anything. Jerry Springer gets good ratings, as do gossip shows and other forms of cheesy entertainment.

Ratings have everything to do with it.

If FoxNews only showed completely one sided, highly slanted, pro right wing reports, commentators and news then why would a country split slightly to the left of 50/50 make it a ratings giant over CNN and NBC cable combined?

That doesn't add up.

I can buy some curiosity from the left from time to time, but not to the point that they drive up ratings.

Fox is different. I'll give you that, but maybe, just maybe between the unpalpable right wing screamers they are serving up a verion of the news that other media in the U.S. is fearful of providing. [/b][/quote]
Just to clear something up (or rather have it cleared for me), is FOX News the most highly watched news program, or is the FOX network the most watched network. I definitely believe the latter, haven't heard about the former, maybe you guys could enlighten me.

Seems to me that if FOX has the best programming outside of news (which they probably do), then that will attract a lot more viewers to it de facto; 'i left the tv on after the Simpsons, and watched the news' type thing.

Just a comment as to the validity/nature of FOX's popularity.

If its the most successful news program... well... I guess that's revealing. Probably confounding factors in there somewhere though.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Bingo+Oct 11 2004, 11:32 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Bingo @ Oct 11 2004, 11:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-FlamesAddiction@Oct 11 2004, 01:33 PM
And I don't see what ratings have to do with anything.# Jerry Springer gets good ratings, as do gossip shows and other forms of cheesy entertainment.

Ratings have everything to do with it.

If FoxNews only showed completely one sided, highly slanted, pro right wing reports, commentators and news then why would a country split slightly to the left of 50/50 make it a ratings giant over CNN and NBC cable combined?

That doesn't add up.

I can buy some curiosity from the left from time to time, but not to the point that they drive up ratings.

Fox is different. I'll give you that, but maybe, just maybe between the unpalpable right wing screamers they are serving up a verion of the news that other media in the U.S. is fearful of providing. [/b][/quote]
You're assuming that people on both sides of the political spectrum are network loyal.

If you're a staunch conservative, what are your choices? It's FOX or bust. If you're a centrist or leftist, there are more choices. It stands to reason that the ratings among non-neocons are split. Conservatives are going to be more network loyal. I do not know any liberals who stand by a news network the way conservatives stand by FOX.

I would be curious to know what the ratings are country-by-country. I would bet that they are probably only #1 in the U.S..

[TheCommodoreAfro]

Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 12 2004, 05:31 AM
Ann Coulter will follow Moore at the University of Arizona on Oct. 21. Booked by the Republicans on Campus organization.

She and Moore are both wingnuts so its fitting each side found the extremists on their side of the fence to represent them. Whatever happened to normal people?

Tickets are free Lanny!!

You can listen to KFYI in Phoenix live at this web address and judge for yourself . . . but you'll need to register.

http://www.kfyi.com/main.html

Judging by the front page of their web site, they're not disguising who they might be leaning towards. At least the FOXnew.com actually looks non-descript and generally is inside.

The KFYI daily poll has President Bush with an 86% advantage in the last debate, so you can guess who is listening . . . . plus Lanny:

http://www.kfyi.com/dailypoll.html

If KFYI/FOX in Phoenix is good enough to make Lanny pop a corpuscle, however, they're good enough for the average folk!!

Cowperson

Actually, Ann Coulter is a fascist. Didn't she claim a number of times in her book that we should just convert all of the Muslims that haven't been killed to Christianity.

Coulter can write

Ugly B Alert

Like it or not, call him a wingnut and try to denegrate him, Micheal Moore is a respected documentary film and film maker. He is nowhere near the edge that he is painted into, and possesses views not unlike a guy like Christopher Reeve. He just goes about it better. A telling fact will be the fact that maybe a few folks will show up to Coulter's talk (and as many will protest it), and Moore will draw a heck of a lot more.

The man is speaking the truth, and for all the crap that has finally come to light to everyone in the last few weeks I'm surprised that all of you in the conservo-box have seem to continue to paint him in the same light. What bugs conservatives the most about him is that he uses their tactics to get his message out.

[FlamesAddiction]

Another thing about FOX that affects the ratings is that it is an entertaining station. I would bet that a lot of people watch it for that reason alone. The only all news station that might come close is CNN, but they are not as exciting.

Does CBC, BBC, or CNN have people yelling at guests and telling them to shut-up? FOX has way more entertainment value then other all news networks. IMO, the rating reflect that more than news and information that is supposedly balanced.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by FlamesAddiction@Oct 11 2004, 11:57 PM
Another thing about FOX that affects the ratings is that it is an entertaining station. I would bet that a lot of people watch it for that reason alone. The only all news station that might come close is CNN, but they are not as exciting.

Does CBC, BBC, or CNN have people yelling at guests and telling them to shut-up?

You think people watch FOXnews because they talk over each other?

Chris Matthews of MSNBC does that all the time and remarked a month ago he's decided to make an effort to stop. So does Joe Scarborough of MSNBC. But you see the point there - Matthews isn't exactly a Bush supporter and Scarborough would rather the USA fall into a pit than see Kerry elected President. MSNBC airs them both. CNN has the shouting thing going on as well on some of their counterpoint shows.

What isn't common in the above is three right wingers shouting down one left winger which might be the favourite FOX formula.

At least FOX provides the opportunity to be shouted at. It would be interesting to know the last time Ted Byfield, Paul Jackson or QR77's Dave Rutherford appeared on a CBC panel program to represent the right wing crazies of Alberta.

Like it or not, call him a wingnut and try to denegrate him, Micheal Moore is a respected documentary film and film maker.

That's simply your opinion. A cloud of people in the USA would think you're off your rocker with a statement like that. They'd roll in the aisles laughing.

There are people, maybe tons of them, who think Ann Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are the cats meow as well.

And others do not. Same as with Moore.

You have to concede each has his/her constituency. And enemies. Its all about perspective.

As to Coulter alone, it might be instructive to note that even Bill O'Reilly thinks she's demented as per his comments when she was on his program a couple of months ago.

As I said in my earlier post, what's wrong with getting normal people to speak at universities?!!!

Teddy Kennedy crawls out of Boston Harbor with a quart of Scotch in one pocket and a pair of pantyhose in the other, and Democrats hail him as their party's spiritual leader.

Well, Coulter hit that nail on the head.

Cowperson

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 11 2004, 07:23 PM

As to Coulter alone, it might be instructive to note that even Bill O'Reilly thinks she's demented as per his comments when she was on his program a couple of months ago.

What did he say?

I made the mistake of hitting Anncoulter.com earlier and holy crap what a place. I wrote them an e-mail asking if she was a real person or if it was a website "like The Onion".

Hopefully I get a response.

[Cowperson]

Originally posted by RougeUnderoos+Oct 12 2004, 01:29 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RougeUnderoos @ Oct 12 2004, 01:29 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Cowperson@Oct 11 2004, 07:23 PM

As to Coulter alone, it might be instructive to note that even Bill O'Reilly thinks she's demented as per his comments when she was on his program a couple of months ago.

What did he say?

I made the mistake of hitting Anncoulter.com earlier and holy crap what a place. I wrote them an e-mail asking if she was a real person or if it was a website "like The Onion".

Hopefully I get a response. [/b][/quote]
Ann Coulter tells an incredulous Bill O'Reilly that there are no problems in Iraq and WMD was found in Iraq and the Abu Ghraib prison scandal is a design of the left wing media to defeat America. She also says her book sales are doing pretty good.

An interview in late May:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Cowperson

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally posted by Cowperson+Oct 11 2004, 07:45 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Cowperson @ Oct 11 2004, 07:45 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

What did he say?

I made the mistake of hitting Anncoulter.com earlier and holy crap what a place. I wrote them an e-mail asking if she was a real person or if it was a website "like The Onion".

Hopefully I get a response.

Ann Coulter tells an incredulous Bill O'Reilly that there are no problems in Iraq and WMD was found in Iraq and the Abu Ghraib prison scandal is a design of the left wing media to defeat America. She also says her book sales are doing pretty good.

An interview in late May:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,121262,00.html

Cowperson [/b][/quote]
Wow. Thanks for the link. Not everyday I get to cheer for Bill O'Reilly in a confrontation.

[Flame On]

Originally posted by Cowperson@Oct 12 2004, 01:45 AM

Ann Coulter tells an incredulous Bill O'Reilly that there are no problems in Iraq and WMD was found in Iraq and the Abu Ghraib prison scandal is a design of the left wing media to defeat America. She also says her book sales are doing pretty good.

Sounds a bit like "the Holocost never happened" level of denial. What a freak!

I haven't seen Moore appologise for blatant lies like fox has, neither has fox won international film prizes like Moore. I know which I'd "lean" toward putting as more likely as being an intellectual.

[snowdude]

My favorite fox news story of all times is that Canada did bad at the olympics because we are socalist

[Flame On]

Has anyone seen the recent adds from CNN about "the threat from the North" about terrorists in Canada? Or had I dropped off and was dreaming?

[snowdude]

Canada Does Bad at Olympics because they are Commies

WHA? threat from the north? did it have campy graphics and theme music? becuase if it did then Canada has hit the big time