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I wanna be like Miikka · 11-19-2006, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by PeterPocklingtonIsMyHero

it could be manslaughter
murder involves the intent to kill

I thought that one of the degrees of murder (3rd I believe) is for unintentional murder. So if you drive drunk and kill someone that is what you are charged with.

Antithesis · 11-19-2006, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SpitFire40

23 years of living in Calgary: Never seen a stabbing
1 day at West Edmonton Mall on BOXING DAY: Dude get's stabbed right in front of me

The town is straight ****ed up.

Your conclusions then seem to be:

1. Since stabbings happened at WEM every day you were there, by extension, they happen every day regardless of your presence

2. West Edmonton Mall on Boxing Day is therefore reflective of the city of Edmonton in general

3. Stabbings never happen in Calgary

I lived in Edmonton for four years in University and never saw any type of violent crime occur (Whyte Ave, WEM, otherwise) therefore by your apparent 'logic', there was never any violent crime while I was there.

Yay for judging an entire city based on one day! Go you!

metallicat · 11-19-2006, 07:15 PM

There was a stabbing on Whyte last night, LOL. 105 st.

And the murder I talked about: http://630ched.com/news/news_local.c...news_local.cfm

SpitFire40 · 11-19-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Your conclusions then seem to be:

1. Since stabbings happened at WEM every day you were there, by extension, they happen every day regardless of your presence

2. West Edmonton Mall on Boxing Day is therefore reflective of the city of Edmonton in general

3. Stabbings never happen in Calgary

I lived in Edmonton for four years in University and never saw any type of violent crime occur (Whyte Ave, WEM, otherwise) therefore by your apparent 'logic', there was never any violent crime while I was there.

Yay for judging an entire city based on one day! Go you!

I'll bash Edmonton for whatever reason I may thanks.

Think outside the box... of course I don't think that happens every day.

Winsor_Pilates · 11-19-2006, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by I wanna be like Miikka

I thought that one of the degrees of murder (3rd I believe) is for unintentional murder. So if you drive drunk and kill someone that is what you are charged with.

IIRC, there is not 3rd degree anymore. Just 1st, 2nd and the manslaughter

icarus · 11-19-2006, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Winsor_Pilates

IIRC, there is not 3rd degree anymore. Just 1st, 2nd and the manslaughter

Technically, the ordinal number system does not exist in the law, at least not anymore. 1st, 2nd, 3rd... all colloquialisms, probably perpetuated by police lingo.

fanforever1986 · 11-19-2006, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by guzzy

Edmonton is now the murder capital of Canada this year. Not exactly the kind of tag you want. Here are some stats in 2004.

Jacksonville Florida is similar in size to Edmonton and they had 104 murders and 6533 violent crimes in 2004. The U.S. average is 466 violent crimes per 100000 people and 5.5 murders per 100000 people. Edmonton in this same time period had 6598 violent crimes but only 39 murders.

Omaha, which is half the size of Edmonton had 20 murders in 2004 and 2600 violent crimes. Less crime but the same amount of murder per capita.

I came here in Edmonton's defence but once I actually pulled up crime stats I realized they actually are pretty high on a continental platform.

how wrong is it that i smiled about this post?

Antithesis · 11-19-2006, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SpitFire40

I'll bash Edmonton for whatever reason I may thanks.

Think outside the box... of course I don't think that happens every day.

Go right ahead, I never said you couldn't, just hoping to expand the meaning behind your post (if there is one) ... I, personally, choose to bash Edmonton because OILFAN #81 lives there

Vulcan · 11-19-2006, 08:46 PM

Except for the murders, I'd take a lot of these stats with a grain of salt. Probably a lot of crimes are never reported because the cops can't or won't do anything. It's kind of like saying crime is way down in the park and maybe it is because everyone knows it's too dangerous to go there anymore.

Coolsurfer79 · 11-19-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SpitFire40

23 years of living in Calgary: Never seen a stabbing
1 day at West Edmonton Mall on BOXING DAY: Dude get's stabbed right in front of me

The town is straight ****ed up.

He got stabbed right in front of you? Why didn't you help identify the assailant. Those guys got off because nobody could identify them.

Brick · 11-19-2006, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicole

Wow ... I guess this stuff NEVER happens in Calgary .. Calgary is 'Heaven on Earth'

The secret's out.

FlamesAllTheWay · 11-20-2006, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Phanuthier

Turn off on 103 (?) to Whyte, first block, see a group of 14 year old hookers. Next block, a guy's putting some sort of choke hold on his wife or girlfriend, and some guys trying to stop him. Next block, a cop car is in front of a club with its lights on, as they pull a couple guys out of a club. Next block, a group of homeless people hovered together. Next block, an ambulance is there, lights too (in fairness, could be responding to a resident, and not a stabbing?)

Honestly, never seen anything like it.

After reading this, I immediately thought of this:

http://www.stickdeath.com/vw.html

OILFAN #81 · 11-20-2006, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Antithesis

Go right ahead, I never said you couldn't, just hoping to expand the meaning behind your post (if there is one) ... I, personally, choose to bash Edmonton because OILFAN #81 lives there

HAHA Steve, your soooooooo funny!

Brewmaster · 11-20-2006, 02:58 AM

I party on Whyte Ave pretty regularly and I usually walk home from the bar at the end of the night. I've never felt unsafe or seen anything terrible happen

jolinar of malkshor · 11-20-2006, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

There was a stabbing on Whyte last night, LOL. 105 st.

And the murder I talked about: http://630ched.com/news/news_local.c...news_local.cfm

There was a shooting in a bar on Sat and Yesterday on the LRT platform in Calgary.
Calgary seems much safer eh.

http://www.am770chqr.com/news/news_l...news_local.cfm

jolinar of malkshor · 11-20-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by icarus

Technically, the ordinal number system does not exist in the law, at least not anymore. 1st, 2nd, 3rd... all colloquialisms, probably perpetuated by police lingo.

Yes it does.

231. (1) Murder is first degree murder or second degree murder

http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/c-46/280685.html

Rhettzky · 11-20-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

There was a stabbing on Whyte last night, LOL. 105 st.

How, even in the context of making fun of Edmonton, is that considered funny?

wooohooo · 11-20-2006, 11:08 AM

Alright, I've lived in Calgary for almost all my life except the past two for school. You get to see alot of things in Edmonton you don't see in Calgary... robberies, stabbings, etc. My whole life I never experianced seeing a robbery, having someone stabbed 2 blocks from my house then 3 blocks then next day... until I moved to Edmonton. JOY!

(And they seem to have a problem with road rage.)

metallicat · 11-20-2006, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rhettzky

How, even in the context of making fun of Edmonton, is that considered funny?

I wasn't laughing at the incident, more the fact that I didn't think there actually was a stabbing, and then found out there was. In fact, the stabbing on Whyte, at least one of them, has also now turned into a murder. Two in one night.

Rhettzky · 11-20-2006, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by oilers_fan

I wasn't laughing at the incident, more the fact that I didn't think there actually was a stabbing, and then found out there was. In fact, the stabbing on Whyte, at least one of them, has also now turned into a murder. Two in one night.

No worries, it just looked funny.

"Holy crap a killing spree!! LOL!!!"