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Old 11-09-2006, 06:12 AM   #21
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My usual 25 minute commute was only 10 minutes longer.
Deerfoot is pretty slick, I didn't see one sander truck.

The sideroads may as well have hockey nets attached to them, it's a skating rink out there.

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Old 11-09-2006, 07:44 AM   #22
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what snow? Just cut my grass here in sunny Suth'n Ontario....a balmy 14 today.
14? What is that in real temperature? It was a chilly 86 here yesterday. Haven't had the roof up in weeks!

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Old 11-09-2006, 07:44 AM   #23
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what snow? Just cut my grass here in sunny Suth'n Ontario....a balmy 14 today.
A pleaseant 13 here today.

Have to wait for february to get any chance of snow. We do get a lot of rain and wind though. F**cksocks.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:28 AM   #24
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Took me about 10 extra minutes. I find that taking alternative routes works when the weather is lousy. Routes that I usually don't take cuase the main ones are faster in good weather. Was a little slower but the traffic was moving.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:43 AM   #25
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I saw lots of bad traffic this morning, but my alternate route somehow miraculously avoided it. I left 10 minutes early, got to work 5 minutes early - everyone else is still straggling in.
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Old 11-09-2006, 08:51 AM   #26
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That's the first time I've had to use "Four Wheel Drive LOW" on a highway before . . . . .

I came over the rise on the big hill south of Okotoks on the Dump Road this a.m. - going only about 50 km - and saw a tow truck straddling the highway at the bottom, pulling someone out of the ditch. I pretty much slid the half kilometre to the bottom of the hill. A pretty interesting tobogganing experience.

Pure ice south of Calgary this a.m. and drizzling freezing rain.

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Old 11-09-2006, 08:55 AM   #27
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It was really bad last night, but this morning was OK. Smaller roads in my neighbourhood were slippery but the main roads were good to drive on.

What drives me nuts is when roads like Deerfoot are OK and people are still driving at 50km/hr.

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Old 11-09-2006, 09:13 AM   #28
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if more people actually had proper tires on their vehicles and drove with any amount of common sense this amount of snow wouldn't even be an issue. when the first snowfall hit i still had my summers on my Mazda3 and though i slid around like mad, i managed to get around with no issues with a proper amount of caution. throw on my set of Nokians though and now i have no traction issues and can drive in my normal fashion

it needs to be wider known that all-season means all seasons except winter
If you don't drive like a tool, all seasons are fine. 20+ years of driving, I've never had winter tires and I've never been in an accident.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:14 AM   #29
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If you don't drive like a tool, all seasons are fine. 20+ years of driving, I've never had winter tires and I've never been in an accident.
I agree...but winter tires do make your life a little more easier.
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:22 AM   #30
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I was leaving Rally Pointe Last night about 11:30 ish.

Some girl in front of me was going slow but the road there was like a curling rink.

She did a nice 270 spin before she got it straight again.

Thank god for Quadra Trac 4wd and ABS brakes.............
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:23 AM   #31
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I agree...but winter tires do make your life a little more easier.
Yes, they do. Unfortunately, with all the Chinooks in Calgary you can run into a lot of dry pavement during the winter which can result in you wearing out your winter tires a lot faster than intended. So, unless you have a lift and hoist in your garage to swap out your tires for weather changes then winter tires can be a costly decision. But I guess if you can afford a lift and hoist in your garage then you can afford to burn through a set of winter tires every couple of years.
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Ah, just shut up and pay his taxes for him!
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Old 11-09-2006, 09:34 AM   #33
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it seems like there's a lot more snow in the south central (Glenmore/Blackfoot) than there is in the NE.
Yeah, we got dumped on pretty good down in the SW. I called my mother this morning up in Varsity and she only got .5".
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Old 11-09-2006, 10:37 AM   #34
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So, unless you have a lift and hoist in your garage to swap out your tires for weather changes then winter tires can be a costly decision.
Or if you can afford a floor jack, a socket set and a torque wrench...
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Why is it acceptable to be late for work or even not come into work on days like this cause you live in Okotoks? Telecommuting, my arse!!
I think Ference uses the same excuse when he's late for practice. hehe
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:25 PM   #36
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Yes, they do. Unfortunately, with all the Chinooks in Calgary you can run into a lot of dry pavement during the winter which can result in you wearing out your winter tires a lot faster than intended. So, unless you have a lift and hoist in your garage to swap out your tires for weather changes then winter tires can be a costly decision. But I guess if you can afford a lift and hoist in your garage then you can afford to burn through a set of winter tires every couple of years.
I had Michelin Arctic Alpins mounted on a set for my 2000 Accord Coupe, and drove about 8,000km a winter on them. On in October, off in May. I figure they would have had about 8 winters without really pushing the limits of treadwear. So the chinook factor shoulnd't have too much play.

Bottom line - $600 for tires every 5-8 years is still cheaper than 1 wreck (as I found out the hard way)
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:28 PM   #37
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Something else to consider:

Dry pavement or snow / ice covered pavement, when the temperature gets to below 5 degree C, winter tires will stay a lot more flexible and responsive than regular 'all' season tires.
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what snow? Just cut my grass here in sunny Suth'n Ontario....a balmy 14 today.
Yah yah yah rub it in why don't ya!
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Old 11-09-2006, 02:29 PM   #39
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If you don't drive like a tool, all seasons are fine. 20+ years of driving, I've never had winter tires and I've never been in an accident.
Yeah, but part of that is luck. Even with winters not crashing is always partially luck. Things happen, and winters give you a much better chance of coming out of them.


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Yes, they do. Unfortunately, with all the Chinooks in Calgary you can run into a lot of dry pavement during the winter which can result in you wearing out your winter tires a lot faster than intended. So, unless you have a lift and hoist in your garage to swap out your tires for weather changes then winter tires can be a costly decision. But I guess if you can afford a lift and hoist in your garage then you can afford to burn through a set of winter tires every couple of years.
Winter tires are made to operate just fine on dry pavement. Even cities that get massive ammounts of snow still have dry highways/freeways. I think the average Calgarian will get 3 years minimum out of a set of winter tires. There is also a couple tires out there now made to handle snow and ice and also perform on dry pavement. Nokian WR's can be run year round actually, thats what they are made for.

When I see someone with a $40,000 car and all seasons I don't have much sympathy. Get a $39,000 car and some winters. I'm not going to hold it against the guy with a $1000 beater for not being able to afford winter tires though.

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Or if you can afford a floor jack, a socket set and a torque wrench...
If you are that worried about burning through your winters too fast there's a $300 solution for you. Hell, use the spare tire jack and its a $100 solution.
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On in October, off in May.
That there is my single biggest objection to getting a seperate set of winter tires. Depending on when in each month you make the change, that's about 6 months of using the winter tires. I have nice looking rims on my car, and I really don't like the plain black ones. Replacement rims would be about $1200 a set plus $600 for tires; all of a sudden I have $1800 sunk into the car for something that I don't see as an "issue" as of yet.

Plus I don't have my garage built yet, so for storage I would have to get myself a shed; add another $400 for that.
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