Are you a neocon?

[Mean Mr. Mustard]

Never once did I say I liked to masterbate in public theaters. You may all think that but it is just a neo-con conspiracy.... sorry to many lanny posts.

[Lanny_MacDonald]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Oct 4 2004, 02:22 PM

Well we likely would do something about it as we are not prepared to sit back and wait for the bullies to come over and terrorize us. When you have backwards thinking which has the minority ruling over the majority of people. You seem to be attempting to make a case stating that these dictatorships are a good thing afterall, because the people want to be ruled with an iron fist. Damn so Stalin had it right all along?

No, what I am saying is why is the "American way" the right way? Why would the US sticking their nose in and installing a puppet government friendly to the American needs be any different for the people of those countries being ruled by dictators? Would it not be a dictatorial rule of a different flavor? What right do we have to say that our way is better than theirs? We have no idea what their society is like nor the cultural traditions they follow nor the mood of the people themselves. So how do we have the right to enforce a new lifestyle on another people just because the political establishment does not meet the standards of our government? America did a brilliant job of installing governments in the past. Nicaragua, Honduras, Panama, Iran, etc. all turned out to be brilliant moves. HOw can one government, drunk on their own power, be trusted to do what is right in another nation?

[CaptainCrunch]

I guess I'm seeing things a different way when I did this test. Basically I approached it from a generalist point of view and not an American point of view. And answered the questions in it based on my own opinion about how certain policy maneuvers should be handled by any country (Canada, Great Britian etc)

Basically what it came down to on a lot of questions is I frankly don't believe in the UN in its current function, and I don't believe that the UN should supercede a nations national security.

I don believe that Isreal needs to be supported and protected, what thier involved in isn't a war about territory anymore, its about a war on thier civilians by a group of monsters intent on pushing them to the sea (and no I'm not talking about Arabs or Muslims in general so you can put away that racist labeled stick that you were going to hit me with)

I believe that no matter what the justification getting rid of some of these monsters who are running countries and causing death, and havoc to thier own citizens while enriching themselves is ok by me.

I don't think that label's me as a neocon or some monster facist, but apparently this test does.

I guess I'll just learn to live with myself

I guess due to the fact that I turned 37 today I've become completely inflexible.

[troutman]

Christian Science

Worst oxymoron ever.

[Flame On]

OMG! My heart is bleeding, get me a doctor!
Liberal and satisfied.

[Prototype]

Too much reading involved, anyone want to take the test for me?

[octothorp]

I dunno, it seems to me like this quiz is taking the middle-ground between extreme conservative and moderate liberal, and defining that as 'realist'. Essentially re-invisioning the centre of the political spectrum. Which is acceptable, but doesn't really tell you anything more than where your views fit in relation to the CSM editorial viewpoint. Really, I think anybody who agrees with the 'realist' view point on this poll is likely a moderate conservative. Or you can call it 'realist conservative'.

[FlamesAddiction]

Originally posted by Mean Mr. Mustard@Oct 4 2004, 02:47 PM
Never once did I say I liked to masterbate in public theaters. You may all think that but it is just a neo-con conspiracy.... sorry to many lanny posts.

And I've always been employed, think government is necessary, don't mind paying taxes, and don't do drugs. I'm pretty far from being a hippy and do take exception to insinuation.

Besides, I'm far too pessimistic about humans to have the "hippy" mindset.

[sbailey924]

Liberal.

I agree with Weiser Wonder. I do keep far sighted goals, but I'm not afraid to tell myself when something is feasible and something isn't. I'd say I'm a Realistic Liberal.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by troutman@Oct 4 2004, 04:16 PM
Christian Science

Worst oxymoron ever.

Why?

I have no problem reconciling the two.

[8 Ball]

Realist

[Weiser Wonder]

Originally posted by troutman@Oct 4 2004, 09:16 AM
Christian Science

Worst oxymoron ever.

That's not true, you can be a Christian and agree with modern scientific theories. I, for one, am. Christianity is not a dirty word.

[metallicat]

They pegged me as a neoconservative.

PS- I LOVE these political quizzes.

[Resolute 14]

Hmm. I get called a neocon on another site for arguing againt Kyoto, yet am labelled a liberal here because I dont really support America's invasion of Iraq.

I guess the truth falls somewhere in the middle.

[peter12]

Originally posted by Weiser Wonder+Oct 4 2004, 06:39 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Weiser Wonder @ Oct 4 2004, 06:39 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-troutman@Oct 4 2004, 09:16 AM
Christian Science

Worst oxymoron ever.

That's not true, you can be a Christian and agree with modern scientific theories. I, for one, am. Christianity is not a dirty word. [/b][/quote]
I too am a little sick/insulted at troutman's continous hate-on for Christianity.

Edit: I am Liberal; what can I say? Young university student... what else would I be?

[FlamesAllTheWay]

I turned up "liberal". The Liberal Party of Canada has permanently wrecked this word for me though. Every time I see it, I think of the party and not the ideology.

Anyways, I actually don't adhere to many of the points they listed as defining liberal. After looking at each one, I think I fall somewhere in between liberal and realist...

[Five-hole]

Originally posted by Displaced Flames fan+Oct 4 2004, 04:53 PM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Displaced Flames fan @ Oct 4 2004, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-troutman@Oct 4 2004, 04:16 PM
Christian Science

Worst oxymoron ever.

Why?

I have no problem reconciling the two. [/b][/quote]
As far as I know, Christian Science does not mean a reconciliation between Christianity and Science -- which is both possible and done quite often. Christian Science is more of a "blatant nonscience done in the name of fundamentalist Christianity". Christian Science is the stuff like "the earth is 12000 years old, and the dinosaurs were monsters of Satan that humanity hunted to extinction early in the history of the earth."

I'm not making this stuff up. That is the usual kind of doctrine that falls under the moniker "Christian Science".

[Daradon]

Liberal - surprise surprise.

And yeah, gotta agree with Five Hole on this one, was going to add it myself. I have no problem bridging religion and science. I'm a very spiritual person who likes to look at metaphysical ways to explain greater concepts and wild and beautiful ideas...

But I've read some 'Christian Science' books (it's a specific organization in this instance, not just a philosophy) and it's fundamentalist weirdness disguised as science. Using a bunch of bogus data to prove that yes the world was created in 7 days etc. etc. etc. So in this instance, I would have to :P at the monkier 'Christian Science'.

[Displaced Flames fan]

Originally posted by Five-hole@Oct 5 2004, 03:29 AM

As far as I know, Christian Science does not mean a reconciliation between Christianity and Science -- which is both possible and done quite often. Christian Science is more of a "blatant nonscience done in the name of fundamentalist Christianity". Christian Science is the stuff like "the earth is 12000 years old, and the dinosaurs were monsters of Satan that humanity hunted to extinction early in the history of the earth."

I'm not making this stuff up. That is the usual kind of doctrine that falls under the moniker "Christian Science".

Sure, but is that what troutman was referring to? I got the impression that he was talking about an oxymoron in the pure sense of each word....not the Christian Science 'religion'.

I think he's saying that you can't believe in science and Christianity simultaneously.

[RougeUnderoos]

This is interesting.

http://www.csmonitor.com/aboutus/about_the_monitor.html

It sounds like some people here are confusing the "Christian-Science Monitor" with "Science Explained Away by Dumb Christian Fundamentalists Like Stockwell Day". Don't do that.