CFL vs NFL vs NCAA

[Shazam]

Originally Posted by pope04

CFL by a long shot. I don't watch much NFL anymore, but I did in the late 80s/early 90s. Runrunpasspunt, runrunpasspunt just isn't my cup of tea.

Oh come on. Sometimes its runrunrunpunt. And sometimes you can see the coaching staff sharing a pot of tea in between plays...

[worth]

CFL by far. I would watch every single CFL game between every team if I had the chance. I would even watch a Hamilton vs Ottawa game (if they were still around). Maybe next year.

Will watch NFL if nothing else to do, but won't really go out of my way to watch a game.


Never watch NCAA.

[Bench Warmer]

Another vote here for the CFL. I just never can get into the NFL season until the CFL season is over. I watched 10 minutes of the Dolphins-Steelers games last night and that's all I could muster. It's too slow - I find CFL games much more entertaining. And I find the NFL games very robotic - the majority of the plays are very formulated and normally, fairly un-exciting. Guess it doesn't help that I'm a Packers fan so there ain't too much for me to get worked up about in the NFL this year...

I've tried to watch NCAA but just can't do it. I think part of it is I don't have a team to cheer for - makes it tough to get into any of the games....

[disco_inferno]

Add another one to the CFL, NFL is way to slow, plus things like the 5-man bobsled make it fun to watch. Go Bombers!!

[Pagal4321]

I go NFL then CFL then NCAA.

I love the NFL game...the marketing machine around it just builds the hype. And the fantasy leagues(which got me into it in the first place) helps alot with understanding the players and the rules and such. From there I just vausght on and am an avid fan of the draft, FA period, EVERYTHING!

CFL is a game I watched growing up, but was never able to fully get into it. After my move, I backed the Stamps and my love of football as a sport grew, so CFL was always included just always plays a second fiddle to the NFL.

NCAA is something I'm just starting to get into now. It seems SO confusing to me with the ACC, PAC 10, etc...it's too much for me to take in right now.

[FlamingLonghorn]

NCAA by far I'd would rather watch a bunch of kids with hearts play than a bunch of spoiled millionaires. NFL would be next only because I've never seen a CFL game.

BTW, I am attending #1 Ohio State at my #2 Longhorns today excellent seats. I can't believe I turned down $1800 for my pair of tickets...

[Are you a Flamer?]

Please tell me you guys are joking about liking the CFL more than the NFL and College ball..

The CFL is probably the worst game with how it is setup(rules and all) with the 8 or 9 teams or whatever the hell it is. How can you possibly get into watching that garbage with low end players, no hype, horrible broadcasting, no structured play(30 yard passes like no problem) and that so called league with 6 teams.

I understand Canadians have little to no imagination at all, so the only thing that gets you going is a big play to make you think something real big is going on when really, it's nothing spectacular. Strategy is a big part when it comes to sports down here, and big plays can mean either 2 yard 3rd down plays or 20 yard pass plays, it all depends. It's not that way with you guys at ll up there in woods, you like big hits, fast action and that's it.

I'll admit the Super bowl sucks, and may be the worst NFL game all year. This is because the fans are not fans(for the most part) and the hype is so great that it gets annoying. But to say NCAA and NFL regular season and playoffs is boring, is just ######ed. And yes, i've watched a CFL game before(only for about 4 minutes) because it was the worst sport i think i have ever seen and is a disgrace to how football is supposed to be played which is mainly strategy.

[JiriHrdina]

^^So you like the CFL eh?

[calf]

And yes, i've watched a CFL game before(only for about 4 minutes)

you haven't watched a CFL game before...you've watched about 4 minutes of a CFL game.

And FTR, it's a thread about preference to watch...most of us like watching the game that's more accessable to us. Who woulda thunk...

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by Are you a Flamer?

Please tell me you guys are joking about liking the CFL more than the NFL and College ball..

The CFL is probably the worst game with how it is setup(rules and all) with the 8 or 9 teams or whatever the hell it is. How can you possibly get into watching that garbage with low end players, no hype, horrible broadcasting, no structured play(30 yard passes like no problem) and that so called league with 6 teams.

I understand Canadians have little to no imagination at all, so the only thing that gets you going is a big play to make you think something real big is going on when really, it's nothing spectacular. Strategy is a big part when it comes to sports down here, and big plays can mean either 2 yard 3rd down plays or 20 yard pass plays, it all depends. It's not that way with you guys at ll up there in woods, you like big hits, fast action and that's it.

I'll admit the Super bowl sucks, and may be the worst NFL game all year. This is because the fans are not fans(for the most part) and the hype is so great that it gets annoying. But to say NCAA and NFL regular season and playoffs is boring, is just ######ed. And yes, i've watched a CFL game before(only for about 4 minutes) because it was the worst sport i think i have ever seen and is a disgrace to how football is supposed to be played which is mainly strategy.

Wow, I can't imagine why the majority of Canadians (or the world) hate Americans after reading this post... You know, "up here" in Canada we are pretty respectful of differing opinions and usually do not make huge generalizations about an entire country, but then again "up here" in Canada we don't have terrorists trying to kill us either.

Regardless of how many teams are in the CFL, they play the same number of games per season as the NFL does. This way the teams usually know how the other teams operate which makes the games that much more exciting. The first week of the NFL was grossly represented by outmatched teams - tell me how this makes more exciting football. Imagine! Liking big hits and fast action better than strategy... If I wanted to watch strategy I'ld go check out a chess tournament on ESPN 8 - the ocho.

I love how you think that Canadians have no imagination at all, especially when you've re-elected Bush... Trust me, there is nothing Americans can say about Canadians that we would ever take seriously after you elected that clown... twice! I personally do not hate all Americans, just about 53% of American voters, and somehow I get the feeling you're one of them.

Saying we have no imagination is a pretty bold statement to be making on a hockey forum, nay a hockey forum for a Canadian team. If you don't like the way we play sports "up here" - why don't you watch some American hockey... when was the last time you guys won the gold again? And how many Canadians play in the NHL?

[FlamingLonghorn]

Originally Posted by Red Mile Style

Wow, I can't imagine why the majority of Canadians (or the world) hate Americans after reading this post... You know, "up here" in Canada we are pretty respectful of differing opinions and usually do not make huge generalizations about an entire country, but then again "up here" in Canada we don't have terrorists trying to kill us either.

Say hypocritical things much?

also wasn't there recently a foiled terrorist attack on Canada? man you got to watch to news more if you missed that...

[Red Mile Style]

Originally Posted by Sowa

Say hypocritical things much?

also wasn't there recently a foiled terrorist attack on Canada? man you got to watch to news more if you missed that...

As far as I know, nobody has been convicted of anything yet.

I have no problem with anyone's opinion of the NFL or CFL. But when somebody makes a rash statement about Canada on a thread about football, that's when I pull out the big guns. Coming from a country that re-elects the most hated person in the world, to say we don't have an imagination is ridiculous.

[calgaryrocks]

Originally Posted by calf

you haven't watched a CFL game before...you've watched about 4 minutes of a CFL game.

And FTR, it's a thread about preference to watch...most of us like watching the game that's more accessable to us. Who woulda thunk...

no kidding, this guy is an idiot how can you make a judgement on a league or sport by only watching 4 minutes, what if he was watching that brutal toronto hamilton game on saturday, you cant decide whether or not you like a league on that. and so what if there are fewer teams, its easier to follow the teams and you actually get to see every team in your stadium at least once during the season. who cares about hype, sure the cfl could be more hyped but it doesnt have the money for it and hype isnt always good as you mentioned about the superbowl, which most people watch just for the commercials. im more worried about the games then the hype, you know the big hits, kickoff returns, big plays. id rather see big plays back and forth between two teams then watch the two coaches try to strategize as they take way too long between plays to decide to run the ball again. GO STAMPS

[worth]

He won't like it no matter how much he watches. he already has made up his mind about it with hardly viewing it, therefore even if he watches a whole game, he'll just think about how much he hates it. If you go into something with biases then the end result is not likley to change. We probably all have a bias toward one league vs another, but I think for the most part we can all kid of sit down and see what we like and what we don't. With this guy, he already knows which way he's going.

[calgaryrocks]

Originally Posted by worth

He won't like it no matter how much he watches. he already has made up his mind about it with hardly viewing it, therefore even if he watches a whole game, he'll just think about how much he hates it. If you go into something with biases then the end result is not likley to change. We probably all have a bias toward one league vs another, but I think for the most part we can all kid of sit down and see what we like and what we don't. With this guy, he already knows which way he's going.

very true, i would like to see his response tho

[Flames in 07]

Well, I've watched hundreds of CFL games, and have had season tickets since I was about 8 (I've since dumped them when Dunnigan was hired). Calgary vs Edmonton games notwithstanding, to me the CFL is simplistic, the fans in the stands don't really understand the game ... accross the country, the league is poorly run and although the atheltism is impressive, it's not as impressive as the NFL.

I've never understood why fans have given the CFL a free pass for so long. The CFL should be on the road thanking fans every week for being so understanding while they continue to ruin their league from within.

[calgaryrocks]

i can respect that you have watched many games before forming your opinion. i didnt enjoy the feterik years either, but times have changed and i am very optimistic about this team. im not sure what you mean by it being simplistic. whether or not the fans understand the game of football doesnt determine whether the league is great, canadian fans sure understand it better then american fans and it was one of the deepest histories for sport in north america. yes the schedule this year was not very good and that is becuase of what happened in ottowa and the mismanagement there. these things happen, no league is perfect. it cant be compared to the nfl other then the tv but the cfl is working on that despite the fact that it has one 10th the population base to work with. the cfl doesnt pay its players very much so obviously it isnt going to have the same talent level as many people are slaves to money, but the cfl is gate driven league and it was WAY better ticket prices then the nfl which would have no tickets sold and still make a billion from the tv revenue. the ottawa situation was in my opinion made much better when the gliebermans left, although it left the cfl in a tough situation 2 months before the season, now there is talk of serious ownership from people...from ottawa. the cfl isnt perfect and i do agree some people give it a free ride on alot of matters that it could improve but more and more people are talking about things that need to be changed like officiating but at the same time the cfl is doing something for example instant replay being brought in this season. its a topic that can never truly get answered becuase it is all based on opinion and it is two different games(that both came from a game back at mcgill university a long time ago)

[Flames in 07]

Originally Posted by calgaryrocks

i can respect that you have watched many games before forming your opinion. i didnt enjoy the feterik years either, but times have changed and i am very optimistic about this team. im not sure what you mean by it being simplistic. whether or not the fans understand the game of football doesnt determine whether the league is great, canadian fans sure understand it better then american fans and it was one of the deepest histories for sport in north america. yes the schedule this year was not very good and that is becuase of what happened in ottowa and the mismanagement there. these things happen, no league is perfect. it cant be compared to the nfl other then the tv but the cfl is working on that despite the fact that it has one 10th the population base to work with. the cfl doesnt pay its players very much so obviously it isnt going to have the same talent level as many people are slaves to money, but the cfl is gate driven league and it was WAY better ticket prices then the nfl which would have no tickets sold and still make a billion from the tv revenue. the ottawa situation was in my opinion made much better when the gliebermans left, although it left the cfl in a tough situation 2 months before the season, now there is talk of serious ownership from people...from ottawa. the cfl isnt perfect and i do agree some people give it a free ride on alot of matters that it could improve but more and more people are talking about things that need to be changed like officiating but at the same time the cfl is doing something for example instant replay being brought in this season. its a topic that can never truly get answered becuase it is all based on opinion and it is two different games(that both came from a game back at mcgill university a long time ago)

Totally agree, it's a different game and comes down to your preference between the two. For clarity, the simplistic comment and fans understanding of the game are two different comments.

The playbooks of a CFL team are about a dozen pages. You see the same 5 plays over and over and over. They throw to different guys, they have different reads, but it's basically the same play over and over. For example, Edmonton ran about 3 plays in the second half of the overtime game against Calgary last year ... then ran the same play most of the game the second time they played this year (tried again on Labour day but Cgy finally stopped it)

I remember sitting behind the Cgy bench for a game vs Edmonton in Edmonton, and I learned all of the defensive plays by watching the coordinator. The NFL game is much more dependant on timing, skill and strategy. I liken it to WHL vs NHL. Serious hockey fans who know the game seem to appreciate the strategy and watching plays develop ... more casual fans will like the run n gun of the WHL.

It's frustrating sitting in the stands at McMahon, because the comments people make are almost always wrong. They watch the wrong things, they blame the wrong people for mistakes etc... It's like watching hockey in Florida or California. My best example was about 6 years ago during a labor day game, Cgy was down by like 6 with 40 seconds left and was first and goal from the 1. The fans stood up and made all the noise they could. Now their own team can't checkoff and audible, Edm stopped the stamps three times, Edmonton won ... and it was the fans fault, but nobody even knows. They didn't talk about it on the radio, the players never said anything it's strange. This year they have messagles on the jumbotron to say that fans should shut up when we have the ball which is good, but a very long time coming.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by Flames in 07

My best example was about 6 years ago during a labor day game, Cgy was down by like 6 with 40 seconds left and was first and goal from the 1. The fans stood up and made all the noise they could. Now their own team can't checkoff and audible, Edm stopped the stamps three times, Edmonton won ... and it was the fans fault, but nobody even knows. They didn't talk about it on the radio, the players never said anything it's strange. This year they have messagles on the jumbotron to say that fans should shut up when we have the ball which is good, but a very long time coming.

I was at that game as well. However I remember the fans being loud; and in an effort to tell everybody to be quiet the players on the bench tried using their arms. However they screwed up and made upwards motions; the kind they would make on the defensive line.

Which is why it was never discussed. The players told the fans to get louder; and they did.

[Flames in 07]

they did not, that's insane. The QB, both WR's and the RB all at different times waved for everyone to be quiet.

The fans have been doing this for years and it was never discussed, it is not a one time thing.

However the main point is that it happened in the first place, and always seems to happen. Its frustrating to be around. We knock southern US hockey fans for not knowing much, then run off to Mcmahon and cheer when we have the ball. We should know better. OK I'll get off my soapbox now.