Miami Vice.....Opinions??

[J pold]

All the reviews I have read said this is Utter Crap, to me Michael Mann is one of the most over rated directors off all time

[sadora]

Originally Posted by RedMan12

I have not seen it but it looks like just another cop movie in Miami. How original hollywood. Recycle ideas and come up with something ripped off yet again.

I didn't like the movie but this isn't a ripped off idea. Michael Mann, who created the tv series, is the man behind the movie. And having seen a lot of the show I can tell you that the movie is very different.

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by J pold

All the reviews I have read said this is Utter Crap, to me Michael Mann is one of the most over rated directors off all time

WHAT?!?!?!? One of the most respected and one of the best reviewed directors is overrated????? Unbelievable, I'm not advocating Miami Vice was his best work, I feel its hit or miss and it was hit with me, but don't bash his other work. Heat, The Insider, Last of the Mohicans. 3 great movies, 3 very different movies.

[J pold]

I knew the Michael Mann supports would be all over this

Miami Vice- Haven’t seen it but like I said the reviews I have read suggest it is just awful

Collateral- I did not like this movie, after all the hype it got it just didn’t stand out to me, Everyone gave Tom Cruise so much credit for his portrayal of the Bad guy, congrats tom every great actor can play more than one role, and as far as Jamie Fox he was better in bait

Ali- For a movie about arguably the greatest athlete of all time, this was a god awful movie

The Insider- Good movie

Heat- Didn’t sees

The Last of the Mohicans- Didn’t see

[Hakan]

Originally Posted by VANFLAMESFAN

What a surprise, Hakan with a negative post.

You must be Lanny's young apprentice.

I just make negative posts about movies and music that I think are crap.

Take Miami Vice for instance.

Straining not to sound elitist, I think alot of people have no clue about film critique. I think that's a shame because movie producers can just keep churning out crap to be happily gobbled up.

Now of course you will say how I am just be subjective and what's good to me is crap to someone else and that's somewhat of a legitimate statement. I don't have to go check out the crappy movies and I don't have to lament about the non-differentiating mass public. What I do have legitimate gripes about is the sincerely lack of quality cinema for me to purvey. When I go to the video store I often leave empty handed because there is practically nothing that is good enough for me to pay to see.

I'll end this on a positive note for everyone reading the thread. If you like ganster and/or cop movies I highly recommend the British movie 'Layer Cake.' Now it still suffers from some typical gangster moments but it creates a very believable tension through the movie. Check it out:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/layer_cake.html

[@theCBE]

Originally Posted by J pold

Heat- Didn’t sees

The Last of the Mohicans- Didn’t see

wow.. not trying to disagree with your opinions of his other movies because you are entitled to think whatever you want.

but you just called a director overrated without watching what many feel are his two greatest movies. Thats like calling the whole godfather trilogy crap after just watchign the third one.

Heat was amazing, in my mind one of the best crime movies I've ever seen.

[J pold]

^^Fair enough but from the movies I have seen he is overrated

[Hakan]

Originally Posted by @theCBE

wow.. not trying to disagree with your opinions of his other movies because you are entitled to think whatever you want.

but you just called a director overrated without watching what many feel are his two greatest movies. Thats like calling the whole godfather trilogy crap after just watchign the third one.

Heat was amazing, in my mind one of the best crime movies I've ever seen.

I'm on the fence with Heat. What was so amazing about it?

[VANFLAMESFAN]

Originally Posted by Hakan

I'll end this on a positive note for everyone reading the thread. If you like ganster and/or cop movies I highly recommend the British movie 'Layer Cake.' Now it still suffers from some typical gangster moments but it creates a very believable tension through the movie. Check it out:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/sony/layer_cake.html

Solid flick

[peter12]

Layer Cake was a very good movie. I'm with Hakan, the formulaic drivel that Hollywood is pushing out is getting sickening. "You, Me & Dupree"... haven't we seen this movie 3 or 4 times in the last 4 or 5 years?

[@theCBE]

Originally Posted by Hakan

I'm on the fence with Heat. What was so amazing about it?

Style, characters, story.. when I watched Heat it was very different than any crime movie I had seen before it. I really enjoyed it then and if I watched it now I would still enjoy it, in my opinion that is what makes a movie great.

[Agamemnon]

Heat was an amazing movie. The acting by both Deniro and Pacino was brilliant.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Agamemnon

Heat was an amazing movie. The acting by both Deniro and Pacino was brilliant.

yep, it was a pleasure seeing the two Als in the same movie. Kilmer can really act when he wants to, and the shootout scene is awesome.

[Agamemnon]

Originally Posted by habernac

yep, it was a pleasure seeing the two Als in the same movie. Kilmer can really act when he wants to, and the shootout scene is awesome.

Probably one of the best robbery scenes ever. That shootout was the coolest thing in the world when I was a teenager (graphic violence, hooray!)

[JiriHrdina]

Originally Posted by Hakan

Now of course you will say how I am just be subjective and what's good to me is crap to someone else and that's somewhat of a legitimate statement. I don't have to go check out the crappy movies and I don't have to lament about the non-differentiating mass public. What I do have legitimate gripes about is the sincerely lack of quality cinema for me to purvey. When I go to the video store I often leave empty handed because there is practically nothing that is good enough for me to pay to see.

Maybe you need to find a better video store. I too don't care for what Hollywood churns out but I never have a hard time finding great movies to watch...just gotta find a store that has a deep selection and search beyond the new release wall.

[the_only_turek_fan]

Originally Posted by JiriHrdina

Maybe you need to find a better video store. I too don't care for what Hollywood churns out but I never have a hard time finding great movies to watch...just gotta find a store that has a deep selection and search beyond the new release wall.

To add to what Jiri is saying:

Use this tool to help you find good movies:

http://www.imdb.com/Top/

And then rent them from here:

http://www.rogersvideodirect.ca/SignUp/land02.aspx

[metallicat]

I just came back from Miami Vice, and I loved it. I don't think it was the typical action shoot 'em movie. A lot more buildup. I loved the tension. Another great Michael Mann movie.