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Old 04-21-2006, 12:08 PM   #21
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Back from the dead!

The Third Way gets dumped again. Shocking. There will be "ongoing consultation" though so that's great.

http://calsun.canoe.ca/News/Alberta/...43786-sun.html
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Old 04-21-2006, 03:10 PM   #22
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Well this is very dissapointing! Clearly Klein and Evans continue to support the third way. The defeat in the Conservative caucus, I would suspect, comes from the factions supporting the leadership-hopefuls who don't want their anticipated leadership marred right off the bat by an unpopular policy. I find their cowardice in abandoning Conservative policy to be very self-serving and this does not bode well for the future leadership of the Conservative party - sometimes real leaders have to implement hard policy decisions even if they are unpopular, if they believe it is the best policy. Clearly, the public health system does not work, and no one opposed to private health care has ever offered an alternative other than throw money at a broken system.
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Old 04-21-2006, 04:23 PM   #23
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. I've never met anyone in med school who were not there for anything other than prestige, there big head and the potential of future $$$. In fact, that is part of the reson why we need private health care, 'cause doctors are in it for the money, so if the good ones can't make bags full, they will go to jurisdictions were they can, and we end of with the dregs of the medical world
wow that's a pretty cynical and sad statement and fairly against what I've seen from at least many doctors (not all obviously)
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Old 04-21-2006, 05:06 PM   #24
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Well this is very dissapointing! Clearly Klein and Evans continue to support the third way. The defeat in the Conservative caucus, I would suspect, comes from the factions supporting the leadership-hopefuls who don't want their anticipated leadership marred right off the bat by an unpopular policy. I find their cowardice in abandoning Conservative policy to be very self-serving and this does not bode well for the future leadership of the Conservative party - sometimes real leaders have to implement hard policy decisions even if they are unpopular, if they believe it is the best policy. Clearly, the public health system does not work, and no one opposed to private health care has ever offered an alternative other than throw money at a broken system.
Well, I partially agree its cowardly to back down. However, due to the NAFTA and CHA implications of the "third way", it is pretty important (for the federal government) to have a national concensus before moving on, and one would not want to travel down a confrontational road with the Harper government your people voted 63% in favor of, especially when all the alternatives are horrible to most Albertans.

Alberta would do well to focus on reducing health system demand (preventative programs), continuing projects like the hip replacement one, and gradually more and more alternative means until it becomes a must-change situation, sadly. Its not Harper who's stopping it... its the other three parties who want no part in it.
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wow that's a pretty cynical and sad statement and fairly against what I've seen from at least many doctors (not all obviously)
Cynical or realistic? It's sad but true! Don't know if you've seen doctors from a friends perspective or a patients perspective. Either way, you are likely seeing their public facade and not what I see everyday behind the scenes. It may be an exageration to say ALL doctors fit my characterization, but it is not a stretch to say that the majority do.
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