Bin Laden offers truce.

[Flashpoint]

Quick question: If you were on a plane and it was hijacked, would you attempt to resist the hijackers at any cost?

Or remain calm and hope for a peaceful solution that might save the lives of everyone on board?

What if your kids were with you?

What if the hijacker wasn't middle eastern? What if they were young white enviornmental activists?


Just some quick questions that occured to me.

[Reaper]

Since 911 occured I would resist the hijackers regardless of their ethnicity.

[Bacardi 151]

Bin Laden want a truce???? That is the biggest load I've ever seen! Either the States will agree then go against their agreement, or BL will just wait till the States' guard is down and bomb the crap out of them!

Call me a pessimist, but really...come on.

[transplant99]

I wonder what constitutes a "truce" in the eyes of Bin Laden anyways?

"Stop chasing me all over Pakistan and Afghanistan and I'll not carry out any attacks on US soil"??

Like all the ones he has masterminded since 9/11?

[Bacardi 151]

Originally Posted by Flashpoint

Quick question: If you were on a plane and it was hijacked, would you attempt to resist the hijackers at any cost?

Or remain calm and hope for a peaceful solution that might save the lives of everyone on board?

What if your kids were with you?

What if the hijacker wasn't middle eastern? What if they were young white enviornmental activists?

1.) I'd stay calm no matter what. Going nuts doesn't help anyone.
2.) Kids? Don't have any so it wouldn't be fair to answer that question.
3.) Middle eastern, have to say I'd be less willing to let them do what they wanted. Environmentalist, depends if they seem unstable or not.

[transplant99]

Environmentalist, depends if they seem unstable or not.

Has there ever been a "stable" hijacker?

I mean really, just the action of it seems to scream that whomever it is is desperate and/or nuts.

Call me a cowboy/loose cannon, but if im on a plane and someone starts comandeering it....im all over them like a fat kid on a smartie.

The rules changed on 9/11...for ever.

[Bacardi 151]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Has there ever been a "stable" hijacker?

I mean really, just the action of it seems to scream that whomever it is is desperate and/or nuts.

Call me a cowboy/loose cannon, but if im on a plane and someone starts comandeering it....im all over them like a fat kid on a smartie.

The rules changed on 9/11...for ever.

I must say...... you got me there.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by Claeren

Wow. How did you get that from what i said?

I've yet to see you ever condemn the terrorists in the Middle East for their actions. All I've seen from you is "they're doing it because the US did this and that".. and the US has killed innocents... and blah blah blah.

Obviously you think that killing innocent people is bad. That should be a given (and has always been assumed).

That said... you seem to find the US caused casualties and the Al-Queda caused casualties to be equal in 'wrongness'. I totally disagree with that stance.

[FlamesAddiction]

I agree that it is almost impossible to hijack a plane nowadays, especially with just box cutters.

The next terrorist attacks will likely be bombed or missiled planes, or suicide bombers like those in Israel. I could also see a gas attack like the one on Japan's subway a few years back.

[calculoso]

Originally Posted by transplant99

I wonder what constitutes a "truce" in the eyes of Bin Laden anyways?

My guess?

"Based on what I have said, it is better not to fight the Muslims on their land,"

Translated: I'll stop the suicide bombings if you stop the rest, but only for Muslim land. All bets are off on American (and other) soil.

[Looger]

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/ne...430-psab01.htm

april 2003


After the war, about 4,000 uniformed Americans--mostly Air Force members--stayed in Saudi Arabia as part of the no-fly patrol operations, and as a check against further Iraqi offensives. However, they became a rallying point for Muslim fundamentalists, who charged the U.S. was trying to increase its influence over the Saudi royal family and the nation's oil reserves. "The presence of the U.S. forces gives a lot of fuel to the virulent, anti-American Islamic forces that certainly command an audience in Saudi, and in the broader Arab world," said Jamil Khoury, an Arab specialist and business consultant who teaches at the University of Chicago. "It's become a real sore point in our relationship with the royal family, because it has become too burdensome to them."

who won the 'war on terror'?

truce - why not, the war's been over for 2 and a half years

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by transplant99

Then why offer a truce?

The people you supposedly represent are being invaded, and you are one of the reasons for another muslim country getting taken over by the US.

That in itself is a pretty good reason amoung others to offer a truce.

[transplant99]

The people you supposedly represent are being invaded, and you are one of the reasons for another muslim country getting taken over by the US

That in itself is a pretty good reason amoung others to offer a truce.

He represents Iraqis?? Then he should really stop sending his henchmen running around with bombs and blowing them to kingdom come.

And if he didn't want a US invasion on "muslim" soil...maybe he shouldnt of flown airplanes into buildings full of civilians on purpose in the first place?

He is scrambling....they have been pressuring him and his orginization hard for 3 years now. Its all starting to crumble and he knows it. Good.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by transplant99

He represents Iraqis?? Then he should really stop sending his henchmen running around with bombs and blowing them to kingdom come.

And if he didn't want a US invasion on "muslim" soil...maybe he shouldnt of flown airplanes into buildings full of civilians on purpose in the first place?

He is scrambling....they have been pressuring him and his orginization hard for 3 years now. Its all starting to crumble and he knows it. Good.

Arguably, he does represent Iraqis. Probably in his mind, blowing them up and launching attacks on "insurgents" and Civilians is a good thing or at least collateral damage. I don't think he is the most rational thinker.

Tranny I think with out a doubt, there was absolutely no way he thought in a million years the US would invade Iraq/Afganastan.

I'm watching CNN too, kind of strange they'd be spinning it the way they are doing. I think the whole point of the tape is to claim they remain strong, but offer the truce.

[transplant99]

I think with out a doubt, there was absolutely no way he thought in a million years the US would invade Iraq/Afganastan.

Really?

Then holy smokes he is a whole lot dumber than I thought.

What did he think was going to happen? A giant rally at the UN releasing white doves?

It was, and is, inevitable.

hell even clinton started bombing the crap out of stuff after the first WTC attack.

[CaramonLS]

I honestly don't think he did.

At worst, maybe a couple airstrikes in the hills.

[Cowperson]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I honestly don't think he did.

At worst, maybe a couple airstrikes in the hills.

Sure:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27999

On a serious note, he's offered the west a truce before, after the Madrid attacks. He might as well be offering the Brooklyn Bridge for sale.

As the BBC analyzed today, its just another attempt to divide frightened civilians from their governments.

He's clearly losing the political process, not just in Iraq and Afghanistan, but across the region.

For balance sake, the analysis at Al-Jazeera's english site. As I've said before, I've become a bit of a fan of Al-Jazeera lately:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...9F532AAFA5.htm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1A9678D922.htm

Cowperson

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by CaramonLS

I honestly don't think he did.

At worst, maybe a couple airstrikes in the hills.

He was hoping for a war. Rally the troops, sink the Yanks into a quagmire, that kind of thing.

[Neeper]

Sounds like he's weak and need to reorganize. Maybe this is a good time to try a little harder finding him.

[Fozzie_DeBear]

Originally Posted by Cowperson

Sure:

http://www.theonion.com/content/node/27999

On a serious note, he's offered the west a truce before, after the Madrid attacks. He might as well be offering the Brooklyn Bridge for sale.

As the BBC analyzed today, its just another attempt to divide frightened civilians from their governments.

He's clearly losing the political process, not just in Iraq and Afghanistan, but across the region.

For balance sake, the analysis at Al-Jazeera's english site. As I've said before, I've become a bit of a fan of Al-Jazeera lately:

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...9F532AAFA5.htm

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exer...1A9678D922.htm

Cowperson

Did you see the "Control Room" documentary Cow?
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